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Politics : About that Cuban boy, Elian -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Rambi who wrote (7105)	6/7/2000 6:25:00 PM
From: marcos	Respond to of 9127

Yes, it's all quite philosophic [background music - Chimes of Freedom - orad.dent.kyushu-u.ac.jp ] ... yes, the majority of the species can trace themselves back to conquerors at some point, that's a fact that comes with the enjoyment of life, as less of the conquered enjoy such a state. Fwiw, when the movies portrayed Santa Anna as an incompetent and corrupt despot they were right ... of course that situation was partly the result of a decision to trust the anglos taken by Iturbide the Emperor ... mexicanos never had a Franklin or a Jefferson who had power for any length of time [Hidalgo was shot early on] ... this is all so academic now, i only bring it up in response to expressions of superiority or dominance [i also have, like Tazio, a very critical rap ready for such expressions from ultranationalist mexicanos]. All the people i know who worked, legally or illegally, in the US went back home with such money they could make and save [if they hadn't, i wouldn't have met them] ... it's been years since i talked with a chicano or a tejano ... and the only people i ever knew from Monterrey did not exactly impress me with the quality of the place, i'm sure they weren't representative though ... we hear stories of east Los Angeles, but that's all they are to us, stories ... anyway, of the people i have known none were a drag on US government money other than that spent on some by the INS, for which the people can hardly be faulted ... those working legally on a green card paid taxes, of course ... so while i don't know all the statistics, i would highly doubt that mexicanos are a net drain to the US economy, rather the opposite i should think, at the entry level they do jobs anglos don't want at prices for which anglos won't work ... there are statistics on this, somewhere, i've seen them, though they may not be up to date. As for rights, they just appear as if by magic in the minds of men, do they not. Sort of axiomatic. Of course making them a reality in practise can place the rightsholder in the position of current conqueror. So it goes.