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To: A.L. Reagan who wrote (11837)	6/8/2000 12:18:00 PM
From: slacker711	Respond to of 13582

This is sort of OT....but I have been wondering when MP3 players would start showing up in cars. Imagine the possabilities with a MP3/HDR equipped car..... Car audio companies push development of digital products Car audio system manufacturers are commercializing digital audio systems, combining CD(compact disc) players with MP3 players. These firms are seeking to expand OEM production in alliance with audio system makers overseas. Terra International, a start-up audio firm, has developed a core technology for car MP3/CD players, and plans to begin commercial production of the new audio system in August. Terra has agreed with the Starlight Group of China to establish a joint venture in Hong Kong later this month with paid-in capital of 2 million dollars. The joint venture firm will produce the players in China for the global market. In addition, Terra is talking with General Motors of the United States to supply that company with MP3/CD players. Hyundai Autonet is planning to develop a car MP3/CD player by October, and supply its products to Rockford Fosgate of the U.S. on an OEM basis. IEO Vox, a venture firm, is developing an MP3 player that uses a flash memory. Commercialization is planned in the first half of the year. IEO has proposed supplying its products to foreign car makers. Namsung Corp., an audio system maker, will develop an MP3/CD player for cars by October, and Daewoo Electronics is scheduled to introduce an MP3/CD player during the latter part of this year.

To: A.L. Reagan who wrote (11837)	6/8/2000 3:56:00 PM
From: Maurice Winn	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 13582

Allan, it's interesting that Ericy and Nokia have, allegedly, been working on W-CDMA since 1996 [at the latest - the early work was done by Ericy in 1890]. But they still seem to be running around with brassboards instead of multipath, soft handoff little handsets in multibasestation fully-loaded systems moving at 100kph. QUALCOMM in a similar time had gone from nowhere, with little funding and having to invent everything as they went, to an actual operational CDMA system. The VW40 Guild has got all the funding in the world, the hard part of the technology was already invented by Q! and it is STILL not working. Meanwhile, Q! has got 1X and HDR ready to rumble and MC-CDMA stepping up to the plate. W-CDMA and EDGE really do fully fit the definition of vapor ware AND Vapour-Wear. How about those Koreans, pretending to go with W-CDMA because it will be 70% of 3G even though their country is full of cdmaOne and upgrades and they have huge technical and commercial advantage in Q! flavours of CDMA. At least they admit that they are really negotiating on royalties. That's mainly what W-CDMA is about. Q! is sitting tough on over 5% for MC-CDMA and any other flavour. If Korea did select W-CDMA, they'd be stuck with the Q! royalty anyway AND have to pay the 6 Musketeers as well as get a rotten technology standard which will never work as well as MC-CDMA. AND it would give huge support to their primary competitors. Yeah, sure they'll go with W-CDMA. Haahahahah! There had been hopes a few years ago that 3G would see royalties whittled away to 2%. But CDMA has been so wildly successful [despite Korea disappearing after the Asian Contagion and being killed off by the huge royalties - some claimed that] that there is no need at all to reduce royalties. They are frustrated. Okay, so we agree on some things. Which can be dangerous because it means people stop questioning when they agree. But what about disagreements? Any left? Mqurice