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Politics : About that Cuban boy, Elian -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: marcos who wrote (7160)	6/8/2000 10:07:00 PM
From: X Y Zebra	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 9127

sorry, i can't think of anything on the events of 1820-47 ... Tazio might ... Thisis the 3rd time I try to post this... my damned computer froze twice, so it will not be as complete as it would have... and I do not even know that the following is relevant but here it goes: Mexico took 11 years to become independent 1810 - 21 From there it become a power struggle, in which its leaders could not even decide if they wanted to be a republic or an "empire"... he he he he.... In 1823, Chiapas was the only part of the Guatemala "protectorate" that joined Mexico. A summary of 1810 - 1940: nt2.ec.man.ac.uk and a time line: humanities-interactive.org A bilingual time line (including info about the Mexican War 1845 - 1848) pbs.org A mere 15 years later Tejanos rebelled and became their own Republic, later addmited into the Union, partly due to the slave struggle between the north and the south. Generalisimo Santa Anna who happened to be president at the time, was not the best Mexican smaples of leadership. Against this background, The US on the other hand was well organized republic with a clear objective to gain territories from its neighbors. Louisiana Purchase from Uncle Napo in 1802-3 Florida and the Oregon territory in 1819 from Spain Texas in 1845 and 1/2 half of Mexico etc etc etc. A couple of maps here to illustrate: (one image is worth...) britannica.com US History 1812 - 1850 odur.let.rug.nl I do not know what the population of Mexicans was in those territories at the time, but I can see how these people must have felt when the US and the people who came afterwards took over these territories. You consider that some Mexican people consider their "right" (by feeling, if that is how I understood it), to simply return to a land that was formerly owned by their country. I am not too sure I agree 100 % but I do know that the feeling does exist among some people. Is it well founded ? I do not know. The facts of the war and how the teritory was lost are there... if one chooses to accept them or not I guess is an individual decision, however... that does not change the border. In spite of the fact that for some (and that number seems to be relevant), the "border was moved on them". A difficult point in some people's minds. However, It is also a fact that the Hispanic population is outgrowing the anglos in the very same territory today, so for practical purposes, the "re-taking" (or invasion, depending on the side of the line), is already taking place. To me, do away with the damned line and form a consensus that works for both people. easy to say, I am not sure it will work, but I think it would be a better alternative than simply begin shooting each other. Because... even after the shooting, we are still neighbors. So there... read on boys and girls.