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To: greenspirit who wrote (7269)	6/9/2000 10:14:00 PM
From: Dayuhan	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 9127

The church may create an atmosphere which encourages children being born. But the decision is up to the individual. If the church uses political influence to prevent people from gaining access to the means by which they can avoid having children they can't support, the decision is taken away from the individual. Have you any idea how many children are conceived in the developing world every year because a man won't take "no" for an answer? Do you really believe that a woman with a husband who won't take "no" for an answer should not be allowed to have an IUD inserted without her husband's knowledge, simply because the church thinks the IUD is immoral? The worlds population could probably fit inside the states of Texas, Florida and California relatively comfortably. What ratio of people to square feet of available space do you consider comfortable?

To: greenspirit who wrote (7269)	6/10/2000 8:11:00 AM
From: Rambi	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 9127

Good morning, Michael! You must not have been raised Catholic. the Church didn't "create an atmosphere encouraging children to be born" nor was it an individual's decision. It was God's law- sex is for procreation, and you were committing a mortal sin to take any measures to thwart this. It was as heavyduty an indoctrination as any Castro carries out. When you are raised from birth believing that you will burn in hell for using birth control of any sort, when you're not educated, or exposed to other ways of thinking, there is no decision to be made. In the same way you fear one small boy will be brainwashed, the Church brainwashed and kept submissive its people for a thousand years. As we grew more educated, as women began to question the patriarchy of religion and society, we began to be able to loosen the chains. I was blessed to have a wonderfully irreverent father who never met a religion (or anything else) he couldn't make fun of, which mitigated the impact of the indoctrination. BUt it still did a lot of damage. I can't imagine what being raised in a household with two hardcore believers would be like, and in a time when no one asked questions.