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To: Bruce Denney who wrote (54031)6/10/2000 7:49:00 PM
From: d:oug  Read Replies (5) | Respond to of 116816
 
Bruce, re:re: Would the US public support a China v Taiwan/USA war ?

<<IMO, when it happens (not if)...>>

I agree.

<...public will not have the time to worry about the consequences.>>

This is the part I'm most concerned about.
Not so much about the public's views at
this point in any developments, but that
the public will be left out of the decision
making process leading up to crisis time.

<<US gov.
...be fully aware of any movement against Taiwan.
...eyes in the sky>>

Meaning confirmation thru visual
and intelligents gathering, I agree.

But to me that is not where
the meaningful stuff is taking place.

My concern is the "back room" behind
closed doors that includes agendas
on both sides, and ways that they
will bo accomplished.

Simple examples under suspiction, as follows.

(1) USA entered WW II after Pearl Harbor attack.

Here lots of speculation US government personel
let this attack go to completion, which in itself
was criminal, but add the fact that they decided
to get the biggest "bang for the buck", rather than
sound the alarm 10 minutes before actual contact
the US government personal decided to let the maximum
death and destruction occur so that the nation's outrage
would be at a maxinum and smother anti war sounds.

For myself I look at the USA joining the fight in WWII
as a correct and desirable action, but I strongly do not
look at the above speculative way as healthy or moral.

(2) Vietnam

That story that we entered because our armed forces
were attacked by the north, and the later identification
that the US placed that boat on purpose in harm's ways
so that the firing upon was for sure. To me sick,
as was the war which I spent 13 months Dec 67 - Jan 69
there under orders to kill the enemy in government
sanctioned murder. Quick off topic question,
why does it always invoke great patriotic feeling
in folks when I mentioned that while I and others were
being pinned down that a "right stuff" jet fighter pilot
came in low and dropped napalm on the enemy, but then
retell the story and exchange as equals the napalm with
what it is made from, liquid gasoline, and rather than
a right stuff jet pilot it was a couple foot soldiers
that obtained the high ground on this small but steep
mountained that seemed to dot the landscape like tall
mushrooms in that beautiful countryside in northern
Vietname north of Quan-tree, and they accomplished the
identical task the fighter pilot did, except rather
than drop napalm from a fighter jet they carried a large
container of gasoline used to fuel a small vehicle that
carried a recoiless rifle, and simply poured the gasoline
down the hill and after it reached the enemy and soaked
into their cloths the trailing gasoline line was light.

To me it was the same act, gasoline dropped and ignited
and sanctioned by the government as not only allowed,
but the troops being ordered to do it else go to military
prison as a criminal. Sick to the extreme for Vietnam War.

(off topic)

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