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To: Daniel Blejer who wrote (115328)	6/10/2000 10:05:00 PM
From: crazyoldman	Respond to of 1572108

Hello Daniel, Re: Looking at the ASUS home page, I see that the K7M uses the AMD750 chipset and the K7V uses the KX133 and either PC133 or PC100 SDRAM (that's the memory I have so no problem there). Do you have a recommendation/better experience with either chipset? My only experience has been with the K7M's AMD750 chipset, the KX133 brought along the capability (but not the requirement) of using PC133 memory. The actual gain in performance using PC133 over PC100 is slight but present. In addition PC133 memory is slightly higher priced. I don't see PC133 as a make of break feature. The $25 premium for the ASUS K7M over the EPOX sounds about right, the K7M is a 6 layer board and the EPOX is a 4 layer. The $10 for the K7V sounds a little high, I was thinking the K7M and K7V were priced about the same (K7V is 4 layer I think). Either chipset is going to do the job for you, but I'd go with an ASUS board in either case. They're good boards. Dan3 also replied to you earlier and mentioned the ABit board, I hate to cloud the decision process at this stage, but I'd like to say the ABit board interests me also, it's getting great reviews and the company has a good reputation. It's great that Athlon owners have so many viable (and confusing) choices. 15 years ago, one of my bosses decided that he was going to determine what computers we were going to buy and began studying the situation; two weeks later he came back to me and confessed that he was totally clueless in spite of all his efforts and time. Picking out a computer remains a challenge today, the Gateway's Dell's and screwdriver shops flourish because of this confusion. This is progress I guess. Kindest regards, CrazyMan

To: Daniel Blejer who wrote (115328)	6/11/2000 3:41:00 AM
From: Petz	Respond to of 1572108

Dan B, welcome to the thread. I have the Epox board and have had no problems with it though some early ones had a recall. The Asus board using the AMD chipset has the advantage that it is supposed to be compatible with the new Thunderbird chips if you can find one in the Slot A form factor. This would make a nifty future upgrade, but AMD has said few Slot A Thunderbirds will be produced -- and those only for OEM's, not for the DIY market. My friend bought the K7M a week before I got the Epox 7KXA. He could not get a cheap Tekram PCI SCSI board to work properly with a Yamaha CD burner although the same combo worked perfectly on both K6-3 system and my new Athlon system. He bought an Adaptec SCSI board and everything was fine. The only problem I had with Epox was that I had to disable the on-board audio when loading Windows 2000 or the installation would hang up when detecting the audio. But afterwards, I enabled it and loaded the audio drivers and everything is fine. This is a close call. Asus definitely has a better rep than Epox, but I don't know if its really justified. Petz