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To: Rambi who wrote (52094)	6/11/2000 11:37:00 AM
From: Ish	Respond to of 71178

<<I think it must be some form of apnea, but I'm so scared I won't wake up in time one night. Does anyone else have this, and should I worry? ALso it's just very unpleasant.>> A little worse than unpleasant, trying to remember HOW to breathe. I had it happen a few times years ago and I'm really glad to say that it hasn't happened again in years. Friend Mike started snoring a few years back and it progressed into apnea. He went to the hospital and was monitored for a night. After apnea was confirmed he was operated on. He had a sore throat for a couple of days BUT his energy level doubled and he sleeps through the night. He's glad he had it fixed. Send this nice fellow a PM, he had his done last year- Member 3377937

To: Rambi who wrote (52094)	6/11/2000 11:49:00 AM
From: Gauguin	Respond to of 71178

You should ask a doctor I think. Instead of a bunch of people who might be dead already. Ectoplasm. >>and should I worry?<< You already are. Yes. >>ALso it's just very unpleasant.<< I know. I don't know how different it is, from actually dying. I mean that it may not be different. It feels like the real package. I'm convinced there are people who die in their sleep who KNOW they're dying. This seems obvious but people tend to overlook it; and think that if they die in their sleep they will be asleep and won't know it. They'll just be grazing in a dreamy field and boink pull up the grass and someone shoves them through to heaven. Poof. Right through there. Completely unaware. Well, it's a handy assumption to make while you're awake; you big bozo. But we already know you CAN have the sensation of being dying, very realistically, and needing to wake up. Another way I look at it is, why wouldn't it be "the real thing." To think it's not, requires that not only does our brain have right and left halves ~ one of them, or a third in back, hates the other half so bad they want to scare the holy hell out of it. Very vicious little walnut. Vicious. Paddling over a cliff, just for laughs. Like if it had arms and legs, it would bring you a cancer diagnosis or grab the steering wheel. This is possible, I imagine, psychologically. Yes. You bet. But then the question is why is one half of your brain/body abusing the other? Throttling it? Attempting murder? "I am a sic puppi." I think this is possible, but also requires asking a doctor. And with the PAIN this experience involves, not to mention that it may be a dangerous physical problem, I really think it warrants broaching the mess with a doctor. I have, and found out their were real reasons, in my case. I won't say whether those were physical or nutcase psycho, just because I'm a butthead and it's no one's business. Regardless, I now believe I have almost Done the Classic, and died in my sleep. (It's funny, in retrospection. I really was dying in my sleep.) You might be too. Or if you're not, they may be able to help you escape this quantum nightmare anyway. I'm pretty sure most soctors and shrinks deal with this a lot. You need to get it fixed because it really hurts. And people need you around. I don't tolerate stuff that really hurts anymore, I just put on my shoes and straggle in there. They give me free suckers, which I really like. Besides, think of the reaction from your GP when you tell them. You'll have the chance to see a variety of very interesting responses. Mine didn't even smile. Of course, he's used to me. Don't like to hear of bad things happening to our beloved Rambi. Or anyone else, he hastied.

To: Rambi who wrote (52094)	6/11/2000 11:55:00 AM
From: Jacques Chitte	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 71178

I get something similar, but not the breathing. Sometimes I get Night Terrors. I'll be dreaming something mundane, and suddenly something ordinary (I remember a walk through the woods, and a bird call did it) becomes scary. Heart-stoppingly panic scary. For no obvious reason. I wake up in a cold sweat, and I usually have to sit on the bed's edge for ten minutes to let the terror subside. I've learned that night terrors are a reliable precursor of an incoming migraine. Something else that has happened in more ordinary nightmares is a peculiar, intense but somehow stylized sensation of great pain. Like the time I [dreamt I] got electrocuted, and my whole arm was swamped in this bzzzt! sensation. Weird. Or the time I dreamt that some inquisitor sank a spike into my knee, and the same faux agony sensation was evoked. I don't like those dreams.

To: Rambi who wrote (52094)	6/11/2000 12:37:00 PM
From: Ilaine	Respond to of 71178

My sister's mother-in-law stops breathing in her sleep. Most people with sleep apnea are overweight and/or snore, but not all. This woman is quite slim. The only way to tell is sleep clinic. I used to feel like I wasn't breathing enough before I started taking thyroid medication. It was an odd sensation, I'd just notice that I hadn't taken a breath in a while.

To: Rambi who wrote (52094)	6/11/2000 1:02:00 PM
From: Crocodile	Respond to of 71178

This strange thing happens to me when I"m asleep sometimes, and I really, really hate it. It happened twice last night, and it scared me. I think that anything that scares you during your sleep is.... very disturbing... because it is the time when you are most vulnerable and unable to rationalize pain. My youngest brother and I have a lot of back trouble and both have this gross thing that happens when we're sleeping. It usually happens just after we drift off to sleep. You are doing fine...just falling asleep, and then the muscles in your back and neck have a very ugly spasm that pulls your head back and curves your spine counter to the normal slightly forward curve. It's very scary because you wake up looking up at the headboard of the bed and can't bend your head forward into its normal position for a few seconds. Your spine stays locked in a weird spasm for a few seconds as well... sort of like waking up with a leg cramp only it's your whole back... ugh... We've both seen our doctors about this thing, but it has to (supposedly) do with the way the muscles in our backs cope with a spine defect. When we're drifting off to sleep, we start to relax and the "opposing muscles" take that opportunity to take control.... We could take muscle relaxants, etc... but we don't bother as it isn't an "every night" kind of thing. Main thing is, it always makes you feel very frightened for about 2 or 3 seconds because the sensation is so intense. So, I know what you mean about the fear of the non-breathing sensation. I agree with everyone else.... Should probably get it checked out. Might be a "stress-related" thing though and perhaps some kind of meditation exercise just before going to bed might help to relax as a preventative tactic...and not a bad idea in any case...