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To: Scumbria who wrote (115439)6/11/2000 12:58:00 PM
From: Elmer  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1577901
 
Re: "Your constrained use of the word "yield" continues to defy my understanding"

No kidding???

Re: "Designers use the word to yield to represent the speed distribution and functionality of the manufacturing"

And manufacturing people continue to refer to transistors as "those little thingies".

The two terms are intended to distinguish between defective die and thus fab output, and the ratio of fast to slow parts. Using one term confuses the issue while using two terms adds clarity. When people here claim (falsely) that CuMine is yielding poorly what are they actually claiming? Are they saying that Intel has lost control of their fabs and most CuMines are lost at wafer sort, resulting in low fab output? Are they saying Intel has great output from their fabs and yet most parts are slow? Are they saying that Intel has poor fab output yet most parts are fast? If I claim that Intel has excellent yields yet say nothing about binsplit, do you know exactly what I'm claiming?

Isn't this statement more descriptive? "Intel has always had excellent yields and binsplits have improved considerably recently".

Using a single term to describe two factors in inadequate.

EP



To: Scumbria who wrote (115439)6/11/2000 2:55:00 PM
From: Pravin Kamdar  Respond to of 1577901
 
Scumbria,

I found out where Intel is selling their high speed PIIIs. This morning, the home shopping channel VCS was selling a 733 Mhz system, and Value America was selling a 700 Mhz system. These are as fast or faster than anything available at retail. I wonder if the 733s use a castrated i820 board. The consumer has no idea what kind of crap they are getting pawned off on them.

Pravin.