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To: greenspirit who wrote (7329)6/11/2000 2:32:00 PM
From: Jacques Chitte  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 9127
 
>I will admit to using your post as a sounding board related to many other posts unrelated to yours.<

This is a thing that nobody on SI should ever ever do. It is beyond impolite. It kills discourse. I believe that it is supremely important to recognize, separate and address only the points that the other person actually brought up.

I know you believe in freedom, Michael. I submit to you the axiom that we can only be free if we understand that we are all individuals and never subunits in some convenient collective, even for a moment.

That is why any post that directly or indirectly addresses a real or imagined collective - "you liberals" or "you anti-Catholics" or "you pro-lifers" is already and irredeemably a departure from reason.



To: greenspirit who wrote (7329)6/11/2000 3:12:00 PM
From: epicure  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 9127
 
>Of all the names people place on their beliefs, the one
which I find most comfortable related to mine is "Diest"<

I assume you meant Deist. If that's the belief most comfortable to you- you might want to spell it right. I would think a Diest might worship death, or gambling, or machine tools.



To: greenspirit who wrote (7329)6/11/2000 7:05:00 PM
From: Dayuhan  Respond to of 9127
 
I believe if you look around the world today, where the Catholic church has it's greatest influence, you will mostly) see women with the highest level of human rights.

The Catholic church has its greatest influence in its third world redoubts, where the rights of women are not greatly respected. In America and in Europe, even in European countries where Catholics dominate numerically, the actual influence of the church has been eroded a great deal by education and independent thought. Oddly, the improvement in women's rights has exactly paralleled the decline in the influence of the church. Insufficient evidence to declare a causative relationship between the two parameters, of course, but it makes one wonder what further inquiry might reveal.