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To: Cirruslvr who wrote (115672)	6/13/2000 12:37:00 AM
From: Cirruslvr	Respond to of 1571848

Thunderbirds are already being remarked... I wonder how they get past the laster etching. ____________________________________________________________ Thunderbird re-marking starts in Taiwan By: Mike Magee Posted: 13/06/2000 at 01:51 GMT Taipei Sources here said that re-marking of Athlon Thunderbirds has already started here in Taiwan, barely a week after AMD launched the products. According to the same sources, widespread re-marking of T'bird product is underway, especially given that supplies of the product are at a premium right now. Only one month ago, AMD confirmed that some remarked samples of the previous rev of the Athlon were on sale in Australia. The counterfeiters see a market for T'bird product right across the Asia-Pacific region while it is still so eagerly sought after. So let the buyer beware... © theregister.co.uk ____________________________________________________________

To: Cirruslvr who wrote (115672)	6/13/2000 12:49:00 AM
From: Goutam	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1571848

Cirruslvr; Found this article on-line at Electronic News - most of the stuff in this article is just a compilation of different info that we had already seen on this thread. I find the last paragraph in this article very interesting. Here is the link to the article with the last paragraph shown as an excerpt: electronicnews.com ________________________ [...] Rambus-related woes are expected to continue for Intel at least until it unveils Willamette, its next-generation processor slated for the end of the year. Analysts warn that because of Intel's recent glitches, they won't be surprised if Willamette is delayed. "I have a feeling that Willamette will be delayed," said Hickey. "That will have a significant impact on Intel, much more than Timna." An Intel spokesman reiterated that Willamette, slated for the second half of this year, will only feature Rambus memory. _________________________________________________________ Goutama

To: Cirruslvr who wrote (115672)	6/13/2000 12:53:00 AM
From: Elmer	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1571848

Re: "Chuck said and Paul hinted there is a shrink for Cumine on the way" Cirruslvr, shrinks have already happened. I can assure you that not all CuMines out there are the same size die. In fact there many be several die sizes out there. While we are on the subject allow me to define some terms. A "shrink" refers to an optical scaling where the layout itself is not changed. This is in contrast to a compaction where the layout is redone. Either a shrink or a compaction can occur in a transition to a finer process i.e .13u but a shrink also sometimes occurs when a minor change takes place to a process that is more of a refinement than an actual new process. A compaction would be required to take advantage of an additional metal layer which frequently becomes available in the new process conversion. EP