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To: Joe NYC who wrote (104382)6/13/2000 1:16:00 AM
From: Elmer  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 186894
 
Re: "Looking closer, it seems that AMD just took Dell system, and used all the components of that system, just replacing motherboard, CPU and RAM"

Yes with a motherboard that won't be available until 2H '00 and drivers and operating system components unavailable as well.

Re: "In summary, AMD picked stuff that is either available now, or is about to be released. This differs greatly from writing a custom Spec compiler as Intel did (to put up some phony Spec benchmarks), which will never be used in any commercial applications."

Jozef this is totally false and lame. Compaq published SPEC benchmarks and they chose to use an Intel compiler. They are a big supporter of Athlon. Did they conspire with Intel? Dell chose to publish SPEC benchmarks and they chose to use an Intel compiler. Did they conspire with Intel? Fujitsu published SPEC benchmarks and they chose to use an Intel compiler. Did they conspire with Intel? Siemens published SPEC benchmarks and used an Intel compiler. Did they conspire with Intel? In fact AMD published SPEC benchmarks and used an Intel compiler. Did they conspire with Intel?????

The claim that Intel's compiler is not commercially used is false and so worn out that I am surprised that you stooped to using it.

Re: "In day to day commercial applications, Coppermine seems to be out-gunned clock per clock, Athlon is available at higher clock speeds, and it is more affordable. Sounds like a recipe for losing market share big way - unit wise and revenue wise."

CuMine is by the claims of the AMD zealots, a 6th generation processor. TTurd is supposed to be a 7.5 generation processor produced on copper technology. However the copper technology has failed to produce a faster clockspeed despite your false claim and phoney benchmarks with unavailable hardware running unavailable drivers on an operating system with unavailable components run on carefully selected benchmarks which only show the results AMD wants you to see do not present a respectable convincing case.

EP