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To: one_less who wrote (81741)	6/14/2000 12:26:00 PM
From: epicure	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

That is simply not true. If I act reasonably, to promote my own interests, by promoting the interests of society, everyone benefits. IT won't affect your afterlife and will only affect your practice of religion as it might affect ME. Your religion stopping at the tip of my nose. The cruelest most judgmental and least accepting people I've ever met have been religious. And they didn't even know they were what they were. The kindest and most compassionate people I've met have been agnostics and atheists. If you pin your hopes on an afterlife and make decisions based on it- you could- for example- think it no big thing to deprive a man of life when if he is "good" he gets another anyway and gets a second trial from God. How simple to send the man to his maker for judgment. Greatly reduces the enormity of the action.

To: one_less who wrote (81741)	6/14/2000 6:26:00 PM
From: Dayuhan	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

People who do not believe in ultimate and eternal justice scare me. Everything I've seen adds evidence to this theory. If I am wrong, my decisions still encourage people to behave in a way that considers the ultimate meaning of their actions. If you are wrong and make decisions using only what seems to serve the individual in his or her relative experience of the moment, then everyone acts on the Helter Skelter principle. There is no accountability in this and everyone is harmed. Are you saying that there is no middle ground between "ultimate and eternal justice" and making decisions based on "relative experience of the moment? This doesn't make much sense to me. People make decisions based on the outcomes those decisions are likely to have in this life. That's a long way from basing decisions on "relative experience of the moment". The threat of retribution in the afterlife has never carried much weight. People act - and always have - according to the prospect of reward or punishment in this life.