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To: Ilaine who wrote (81925)6/16/2000 10:52:00 AM
From: Neocon  Respond to of 108807
 
Well, inspiration is supposed to be factual too. It is only when one doesn't believe in inspiration that there is a problem. Well, that is not quite true. The Catholic Church holds to the doctrine of doctrinal inerrancy, that whatever teaching is meant to be conveyed is sound, but the account need not, in all instances, be taken literally.........



To: Ilaine who wrote (81925)6/16/2000 11:37:00 AM
From: one_less  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 108807
 
<<Certainly some of the events in the Bible are historical, e.g., the fact that the Israelites were slaves in Babylon and later in Egypt. That's not a matter of divine inspiration, that's actual fact. How do you pick and choose between fact and inspiration?>>

There is no hard evidence that the persons enslaved in Egypt by Pharoah were all from an Israelite tribe. In Egypt they teach this history entirely different than they showed it in the epic Ten Commandments movie starring Charleton Heston. The Egyptian evidence shows that in Egypt everyone who was not from the Pharonic people were slaves. The child of a slave (Moses) was given the role of "Messenger of God" by God. He was given power and authority to demand freedom of anyone who would follow the one true religion that worships no God but God. Those who knew or accepted this religion were called by a word that means "Those who passed through the water." The word may be "Jew" I am not sure. No one knows what happened to the Pharonic people. There is no information on the non-Israelite slaves of Egypt and I can see no reason why Pharoah would have excluded non-Israelites from slavery, so this account seems sensible to me.

I realize that most people will who read this thread will have to label the paragraph above as nonsense. It does make sense though if you think about it. It also opens the door to thoughtful people, for a lot of thought.



To: Ilaine who wrote (81925)6/17/2000 4:48:00 AM
From: nihil  Respond to of 108807
 
No, Hebrews (not only Jews) were supposedly slaves in Egypt first, and the Jews (i.e. Judeans) were much later exiles (not slaves) in Babylon, and later Persians. It is said that Nehemiah was the Persian emperor's cup bearer. See his book.