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To: Randy Ellingson who wrote (105092)	6/18/2000 2:12:00 PM
From: Glenn D. Rudolph	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 164684

If/when we can learn to create hydrogen with reasonable efficiency from electricity, or better yet directly from solar photovoltaic (think APWR for a pure play here) or wind energy, we'll be on our way to a clean source of hydrogen (the electrolysis of water) with which to power the fuel cells to run our homes, laptops, automobiles, and cell phones. This is my point. This is not a "new" problem. The process of fuel cells using pure H2 was know thirty years ago. The problem then was access to H2 without using more energy to obtain it than it will produce. I am missing the advantage of a fuel cell until this problem is solved. I wonder if that power source is commercially available today. They are using feul cells to power small generating plants today but again I am missing the benefits since H2 is required.

To: Randy Ellingson who wrote (105092)	6/20/2000 8:35:00 PM
From: Jordan Electron	Respond to of 164684

Popular Science July 2000, mentions hydrogen fuel cells of pure nickel sponge, instead of the more common, and expensive platinum type, from a joint venture of Texaco and Energy Conversion Devices.

To: Randy Ellingson who wrote (105092)	6/20/2000 10:05:00 PM
From: ScatterShot	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 164684

Randy, I understand your point about producing H2, but here is a company making fuel cells that run on other stuff like propane. Sure you still have the byproducts, but I thought you might be interested in the company/technology: plugpower.com Symbol: PLUG