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To: Paul Engel who wrote (116222)	6/18/2000 3:55:00 PM
From: EricRR	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1572252

Foster will be 100% compatible with existing x86 software - so any existing x86 scripts - PERL, etc., - & JVM should run on it quite nicely - and at impressive speeds ! I don't think you've addressed my question- After all, Itanium is also 100% x86 compatible. My point point is that run-time linked programs tend to generate substantially more mispredicts, so any resulting penalty is critical in evaluating server performance. Lets take a simple example: A processor with a 10 stage pipeline runs at 1GHz. It has a 95% branch predict success rate (for non scripting code). Thus: 5% * 10= 50% = The processor runs ~33% slower because of those mispredicts. Compare to a 2GHz processor with a 20 stage pipeline (willy's "in trace" penalty) and a 95% success rate. 5% * 20 = 100% = the processor runs ~50% slower. Thus the second processor runs only 50% faster than the first, despite being clocked twice as fast. If the second processor had a mispredict of 40 cycles (all I know is that willy's non trace is greater than 30), it would provide an equivalent performance to the first processor. Now Willy is supposed to have a better prediction algorithm than coppermine's 95%, but how much better? 97? 98? And will such schemes help so much on run time linked languages? The only thing I can say for sure is that the branch mispredict problem won't show up in SPECint!