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To: Sir Auric Goldfinger who wrote (8372)	6/18/2000 5:04:00 PM
From: StockDung	Respond to of 10354

Which came first? The chicken or the egg? Francois Goleo or UNIKAY99? Ziasun Tech (ZSUN) Message List Raging Portfolios - Track your stocks here New! Real Time Quote Chart Free E-Mail Raging ZSUN Links $75 Offer!! < Previous Respond Next > By: unikay99 Reply To: 481 by securitiesbaron Sunday, 11 Apr 1999 at 6:20 PM EDT Post # of 22831 Updated discussion on ZSUN value... Re-post from SI Board: "ZSUN news today indicated an EPS of 33/35 cents for 1999. That is very conservative and I would not be surprised to actually see an EPS of close to 50 cents for 99, since they always end up revising their projections upwards, due to the fast pace of expansion. biz.yahoo.com When you factor in the world wide expansion of the acquired seminar company and the benefits derived from the synergy between the various companies in the ZSUN group, in terms of additional exposure and cross feeding, a 50 cents EPS is not far fetched. What's the market saying about PE's? A quick check shows PE for YAHOO at 1800 and 700 for AOL! "Preposterous! It could not possibly apply to ZSUN", you might say. I am not so sure, since ZSUN is a multifaceted Company with little competition at its level, well positioned in the exploding markets of Asia. Only a handful of Internet related Companies are actually listed on a US stock exchange. This rarity factor clearly should increase the PE. So, let's be conservative and apply a PE of say, 200, times 50 cents forward earnings, to get a share price of $100.00. As a confirmation, PCNTF, which is in a comparable class, although it is already listed on NASDAQ, projects an EPS of 24 cents for 1999 and is currently priced at $72.80, giving it a 1999 PE of 300. Thus, PCNTF with half my projected earnings for ZSUN and trading at 3/4 the projected target price of $100.00, lends credibility to my short term (6 to 12 months) target. But, since I am reported as "bubbling with excitement" concerning ZSUN's prospects, let's be more conservative yet and apply the PE of 200 to the average EPS of 34 cents for 1999, quoted from the Company Press release: .34 x 200 = $68.00, or nearly four times more than the current price. Now, if you apply PCNTF PE of 300 to ZSUN's EPS of 34 cents: 300 x .34 = $102.00 again! By the way, the audit of ZSUN is being completed and the full set of financials should be tabled within 2 weeks. The documents for the application to NASDAQ listing should currently be prepared and I expect a listing approval within 3 to 6 months. Disclaimer: I am not an investment advisor and am not compensated whatsoever by any of the companies on which I report my opinion. This opinion is for my sole use and potential investor should do extensive Due Diligence before taking long or short positions in any stock. My projections could be way off, as I am biased in favour of ZSUN since I currently own 1,500 shares. Regards, F. Goelo + + + ragingbull.com

To: Sir Auric Goldfinger who wrote (8372)	6/18/2000 5:15:00 PM
From: StockDung	Respond to of 10354

Auric, I bet you never heard of the SI BOB conspiracy? Remember, SI founders and SI Bob are first of all traders? LOL Board Comparison (RB-VS-SI) Message List Raging Portfolios - Track your stocks here New! Real Time Quote Chart Free E-Mail Raging RB-VS-SI Links $75 Offer!! < Previous Respond Next > By: Francois_Goelo Reply To: 9 by alpha6 Monday, 28 Jun 1999 at 11:26 PM EDT Post # of 226 Welcome to this humble thread Alpha6! Let's not lose the subject from sight: Let's find out what's wrong at SI and why Short Selling Bashers (SSB's) are constantly favored over the Longs (I have some ideas on the subject) and try to document the most blatant cases. Remember, SI founders and SI Bob are first of all traders. You can be sure they follow the Boards to guide their investments. Say, hypothetically that they decide to short ZSUN, for example and the usual pampered crowd of SSB's shows up. Then there is someone who happens to be a very vocal supporter of the stock and gives a hard time to the Shorters. Hypothetically again, could one imagine the temptation to shut up the supporter by suspending him/her, at some crucial moment using a fallacious motive? They don't always give reasons for suspensions anyway... Hypothetically, could this be a believable scenario? Would it amount to some sort of manipulation; a conspiracy maybe? Humm, makes one wonder... Regards, F. Goelo + + + ragingbull.com

To: Sir Auric Goldfinger who wrote (8372)	6/18/2000 5:40:00 PM
From: StockDung	Respond to of 10354

Auric, did you know I was a disbarred attorney? Why didn't anyone tell me? Oh they did. LOL By: Francois_Goelo Reply To: 1056 by Truthseeker Friday, 7 May 1999 at 11:51 AM EDT Post # of 22831 Rootseekers, seems to know little about Law suits... outside the USA. I heard you were a disbarred lawyer, so you should know better. A law suit in defamation can be initiated against you in England for libelous allegations you published on SI and RB Boards that have influenced or damaged investors residing there, or being nationals of the UK, like Mr Tobin is. If you do not contest the suit and do not appear at the hearings, the Court may enter a judgement against you and award the plaintiff considerable damages. The successful plaintiff then takes his UK judgement and has it enforced and executed against you in the USA. There are also plenty of reciprocal legal agreements between the UK and the US if you need to be extradited in case you are found to be criminally liable. Enjoy what's left of your freedom, financial and otherwise. F. Goelo + + + ragingbull.com

To: Sir Auric Goldfinger who wrote (8372)	6/18/2000 5:44:00 PM
From: StockDung	Respond to of 10354

Then Francois Goelo said it could be FAHN or the "Financial Mafia" could be involved. LOL By: Francois_Goelo Reply To: 1047 by bighittman Friday, 7 May 1999 at 10:53 AM EDT Post # of 22831 Realmonkey, Rootseeker, etc: their motivations... Any idea how many ZSUN's shares Fahnestocks have shorted in April? Around one Millions shares!!!The only way they can ever cover their enormous short position without sending the stock through the roof is by ensuring ZSUN's stock goes down in a big way! That's when the CAVALRY of professionals BAD MOUTHERS: Realmonkey, Rootseeker and Tradaloo come along and start hitting the stock on various Boards with libelous statements in order to manipulate the stock. Then infamous "Stock Detective", alleged to have manipulated its own stock and that of DRIP, gets drawn into the picture, just in time to prevent the debacle of the short sellers when the stock was at $24.00. Even pissqueak "Crapeague" feels he should join for the kill. This is what Davis write about his crappy rag: "The Napeague Letter is a REASONABLY well respected fundamental analysis newsletter". Sure: take a look at the charts of TASA and ABIX (bad publicity!) that he has been recommending for so long, for "no compensation at all", he claims??? Well, I am not "reasonable" and I think "Crapeague" should be added to the Stinky Garbage list of Stinky Stock Detective. But, ZSUN is fighting back and so far the stock has been holding up well today and yesterday in bad market conditions. Now, what happens if the short sellers strategy doesn't work because stock holders become aware of their tricks and refuse to sell? Will Fahnestocks go belly up, or will their backers come to the rescue? Is the "Financial Mafia" involved in all this? Will the perpetrators of these fraudulent activities en up in jail? Keep posted, we'll soon know! Regards, F. Goelo + + + ragingbull.com

To: Sir Auric Goldfinger who wrote (8372)	6/18/2000 5:47:00 PM
From: StockDung	Respond to of 10354

Will Fahnestocks go belly up, or will their backers come to the rescue? Is the "Financial Mafia" involved? By: Francois_Goelo Reply To: 877 by bighittman Monday, 3 May 1999 at 1:58 PM EDT Post # of 22832 Market Maker FAHNESTOCKS short selling ZSUN:... What is the true story on ZSUN's short? Any guess on how many shares Fahnestocks have shorted in April? The only way they can ever cover their enormous short position is by ensuring ZSUN's stock goes down in a big way! That's when the CAVALRY of professionals badmouthers start hitting the stock on various Boards and infamous "Stock Detective" gets drawn into the picture. That's the gist of the piece I am in the process of researching. Of course, it'll come with a lot more vivid details to flesh out the story and also some serious proofs. But, ZSUN is fighting back and so far the stock is holding up today. What happens if the strategy doesn't work because stock holders become aware of the trick and refuse to sell? Will Fahnestocks go belly up, or will their backers come to the rescue? Is the "Financial Mafia" involved? *MUCH, MUCH MORE TO COME ON A FASCINATING SUBJECT* F. Goelo + + + ragingbull.com

To: Sir Auric Goldfinger who wrote (8372)	6/18/2000 6:09:00 PM
From: StockDung	Respond to of 10354

Francois Goelo's definition of a CRIM. Also click on that link. I am surprised Francois has not updated people because now its reading real red. By: Francois_Goelo Reply To: 3271 by Truthseeker Thursday, 10 Jun 1999 at 1:28 AM EDT Post # of 22833 "Truthseeker was always not a perfect man"... We had noticed and neither has he ever been a perfect sheep, SheepSeeker or RootSeeker. The only activity where he has ever approached perfection is in lying and misrepresenting the Truth in order to defraud investors. In other words, being a "CRIM". clearstation.com (type in ZSUN and click "graph") And lookie here at this perfectly UPTRENDING Chart of ZSUN! For the dummy in you, the GREEN BAR at the top right corner means: UPTREND!! F. Goelo + + +

To: Sir Auric Goldfinger who wrote (8372)	6/18/2000 6:18:00 PM
From: StockDung	Respond to of 10354

The Truth is out. According to Goelo, Alpine Slueth used to be employed by Mr Cragun or was a business associate. By: Francois_Goelo Reply To: 3062 by atiger Monday, 7 Jun 1999 at 12:33 PM EDT Post # of 22834 Atiger, this description fits best Alpine Sleuth, since there is little doubt now that he used to be employed by Mr Cragun or was a business associate. So, he posts here against ZSUN and wilfully damages our investments solely to avenge himself against Mr B. Cragun because he happens to be a large shareholder in ZSUN. His other avowed activity is twisting people's words and ideas in order to discredit them because they happen to disagree with him and his feud. Well, get lost A.S! Go and take your fight against Mr Cragun in another Forum, as we clearly know now what are your motives. F. Goelo + + + ragingbull.com

To: Sir Auric Goldfinger who wrote (8372)	6/18/2000 7:08:00 PM
From: StockDung	Respond to of 10354

"This excerpt quoted from a Swiftrade e-mail to Soluf, confirms what I have been saying all along. We, on this very thread and that of SI, started the call for SHARES CERTIFICATES, which was heard by ZSUN and associates and amplified through them to encompass a huge number of MAJOR SHAREHOLDERS, entities that own several 100,000 shares each." "At last count, we're approaching the 1.5 Million Mark and counting as we MUST NOT LET UP, since the TIGHTER we SQUEEZE, the SOONER this Mexican Stand off will be over and the shares will SHOOT up in direction to ZSUN!" By: Francois_Goelo Reply To: 4507 by Soluf Thursday, 1 Jul 1999 at 12:11 AM EDT Post # of 22834 "it seems there is a MAJOR SHORT SQUEEZE getting ready to happen in the market for ZSUN stock." This excerpt quoted from a Swiftrade e-mail to Soluf, confirms what I have been saying all along. We, on this very thread and that of SI, started the call for SHARES CERTIFICATES, which was heard by ZSUN and associates and amplified through them to encompass a huge number of MAJOR SHAREHOLDERS, entities that own several 100,000 shares each. At last count, we're approaching the 1.5 Million Mark and counting as we MUST NOT LET UP, since the TIGHTER we SQUEEZE, the SOONER this Mexican Stand off will be over and the shares will SHOOT up in direction to ZSUN! I have never come across such PARADOX: on the one hand, we have FAHNESTOCK still on the "offer" and maintaining selling pressure by flogging ILLEGAL "naked shorts", admittedly, as little as it can get away with. On the other hand, the SAME OUTFIT is running around trying to seduce large shareholders in selling large parcels to try and cover some of their positions. IF they STOP being on the OFFER, the stock FIRES UP. If they continue, they and Canadian backers and sellers of illegal "naked shorts" stand to GO BELLY UP! So, one way or the other they're SCREWED and it's just a matter of time now. It could be this week or could be at the beginning of July, but I am ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN that it'll COME to PASS! To be on the SAFE SIDE, just make sure you HOLD your CERTIFICATES! Regards, F. Goelo + + + the SHORT@SQUEEZERS thread... ragingbull.com

To: Sir Auric Goldfinger who wrote (8372)	6/18/2000 7:25:00 PM
From: StockDung	Respond to of 10354

"2) Veritas has now been replaced by a long established and respected Agency, the Financial Relations Board." By: Francois_Goelo Reply To: 6370 by Truthseeker Thursday, 22 Jul 1999 at 1:05 AM EDT Post # of 22834 #### A FEW REAL TRUTHS CONCERNING ZSUN #### 1) Lynn Briggs, to the best of my knowledge has currently nothing to do with ZSUN. 2) Veritas has now been replaced by a long established and respected Agency, the Financial Relations Board. 3) To the best of my knowledge, International Asset Management and Amber Securities have no current involvement with ZSUN. Amber was recently replaced by West American Securities that is represented in all 50 States in the USA. 4) Conclusion: why don't you lay off these three issues and find some "fresh meat", as the readership of your posts is drastically falling, which is a bad OMEN for your Web site.... F. Goelo + + + ragingbull.com