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To: Elmer who wrote (116336)	6/18/2000 11:17:00 PM
From: Dan3	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1571802

Re: Ted, Alpha has been shipping SMP MBs for a long time ... No argument here. AMD hoped to ship an SMP chipset by now but hasn't. I don't think anyone expected that to be a big part of their business for awhile (upper end server buyers are very conservative - look at SUN's continuing dominance) but it is important to get started. Every journey begins etc. But while AMD has had to delay its entry into a new market, Intel has failed to maintain its presence in an existing one. Being absent from the market above 866MHZ, IMHO, is more significant. High end X86 CPUs define Intel, and lately they are on the outside of this market looking in. Perhaps the CO stepping (or whatever it's called) will change that. And while it's true that Intel has never shipped a chipset that wasn't SMP capable, lately it seems they haven't shipped any motherboards that aren't data corruption capable, either. Maybe the 815 will turn the corner for them. AMD learned a valuable lesson last year: if you don't have it, don't announce it, and definitely don't ship it. Regards, Dan

To: Elmer who wrote (116336)	6/19/2000 12:08:00 AM
From: Cirruslvr	Respond to of 1571802

Elmer - RE: "Ted, Alpha has been shipping SMP MBs for a long time and Athlon was supposed to be able to use those MBs with a different bios. Athlon doesn't work in SMP systems, even though there are SMP MBs available. For purposes of SMP the CPU is defective. Plain and simple. The other SMP hopeful chipsets are potentially cheaper but the processor has to work first." Do you know of any dual Slot-A motherboards designed for Alpha? Apparently, the original socket Cumines weren't SMP capable either.