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To: denekin who wrote (54639)6/19/2000 12:42:00 AM
From: Rarebird  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 116764
 
<Gold sale by all the world's Central Banks would simply guarantee a fully confirmed and absolute bottom for Gold, and an absolute and all time high for the US Dollar.>

Why would the CB's of the World want to establish "an absolute bottom for Gold?" I'm all for it as it might take the noose off gold's neck, but doing that would not be in the self-interest of many of the CB's?



To: denekin who wrote (54639)6/19/2000 1:02:00 AM
From: PaulM  Respond to of 116764
 
CENTRAL BANKS HAVE LITTLE NEED FOR GOLD, FED ECONOMIST SAYS

egroups.com

Not much to add that hasn't been said before. I don't think the U.S. will sell its gold reserves, but some minor central banks might go along. Henderson's suggestion to "speed up" gold selling does suggest theres much more to this than just a technical argument about what to do with gold reserves. Particularly when the Washington Agreement contemplates the opposite.



To: denekin who wrote (54639)6/19/2000 6:42:00 AM
From: long-gone  Respond to of 116764
 
1. We should ask quickly about the personal investment position of Henderson.
2. Henderston is only one economist for the Fed. Not all economists or even the "head" economist.
3. The Fed. does not have the gold, the Treasury does.
4. Before any sale could take place it would need be approved by both houses of Congress.
5. Most Congressional members are already less than happy about the "audit" of US gold reserves last year. Before any sale could take place a full inventory assay & audit would need take place.
6. It won't happen before the Presidential Election at this late date. If not now, perhaps never.



To: denekin who wrote (54639)6/19/2000 7:06:00 AM
From: long-gone  Respond to of 116764
 
Doesn't it show how failure of their manipulation nears & perhaps with it the manipulators.



To: denekin who wrote (54639)6/19/2000 7:30:00 AM
From: d:oug  Respond to of 116764
 
... from a US Federal Reserve economist
... that it would be a good idea
for the world's Central Banks
to sell ALL of their Gold.....

... when a US Federal Reserve
economist makes a statement,
it is Federal Reserve policy.
Otherwise that person would not
dare make the statement....

Lawrence,

The prior post by Richard, as a reply
to your post, has good thoughts but I
would like to comment about the thoughts
of you post, shown above.

It is easy to imagine that any person
who works for Allen Greenspan, especially
those down 3 or 4 levels in the personnel tree
from the very top where Al is alone and spoken
as "second most powerful person in usa", would
very much toe the line and not speak counter
to Al's wishes.

Unfortunately, for good or bad, not true as there
is much going on that Al has no control over and
some of it is directed specifically to undercut
and weaken Al's views and wishes.

A little X-Files here in that some on the payroll
of the Fed where Al is top boss are "planted" by
others who are "powers that be" and influence or
move Fed policy unseened and unknowned by the public.

No way can Al get control of this, just as no way
can Al obtain influence on those who work under him
but work for others. Anyway, not Al's style to engage
these types of persons directly thru his position,
eventhought he would fail, Al does not want to spend
his time and energy on non Fed activities.

So how does Al deal with this ? Easy, in that Al is not
really a "stay at home" type person, but he would appear
so only because the Washington type social life is too
political, and he is more of a sociable jazz player and
enjoys the company of those in jazz. Not well knowned,
but a study was done and identified people that identified
Jazz as the music of choice to exhibit certain well established
tight social patterns that reflected a need to not deal
directly with the general public. Something like a very
friendly person that acts shy and avoids contact with
many folks of a certain personality. Its just a simple
protection reflex to a sense of danger that these people
are sensitive to while most others are not effected.

Anyway, Al deals with that situation at the Fed
I described above by going to many social functions,
and since he has an automatic invitation to them all,
he can pick and choose to go to those that will deliver
the type of information through talking to those other
"movers and shakers" that will allow him to understand
what is happening at the Fed that he is off limits to.

Well, less than 2 weeks to prove my prediction wrong.

From: Doug A K
April 29, 2000

My prediction for GATA. June 2000 it's ass is grassed. GATA Poof'ed.
GATA - Gold Anti Trust Action Committee Inc. - www.gata.org

GATA has collected information that points to a
gold derivative disaster looming on the horizon,
and has itemized the steps needed to prevent it
from becoming more catastrophic than it need be.

In the spirit of sounding an alarm, GATA has brought
this information to the attention of the public with
limited success. Either GATA has uncovered another
cover-up by the USA government to hide the fact that
aliens were indeed captured at Area 51, or GATA has
located the place where the living Elvis is staying,
or GATA is trying to open a door that contains inside
that room not only facts of a manipulated gold market,
but much much more that would cause a real life horror
show to be exposed in real time to the public, of which
the resulting outcome to be very sad and messy and very
very very troubling to the citizens who elected their
represenative to government high positions to work for
and protect their interests, and then find out that
even thought they were not involved in any unsavory
or questional or criminal behavior or activity,
that they were in the loop to know of such, and that
they decided not to speak up or bring this to the
attention of the people that elected them to serve them.

Who to trust and not will not be clear to a degree that
the citizens of the USA will not feel comfortable having
those who run the government investigate themselves as
the scope will not only be large, but unclean who is and
is not connected to the wrong doings. Both political parties
will have connections not only at present time but more
importantly back thru many years when many different persons
of both parties were at the helm and control of many areas
to be regulated thru government laws and policies.

What to do when the threads of a current bad situation leads
back into time into both parties thru many different persons
of which some were deeply involved to the other side of some
only knowing of such activity but keep quiet.

Bottom Line
==========

In the coming weeks GATA will bring to the attention
of certain members of the United States Congress
the gold derivative disaster as GATA understand it.

Also included will be GATA's suggestions to prevent it
from becoming more catastrophic than it need be.

To use GATA's words.

[Start.]

"GATA will alert certain politicians
(especially banking committee members)
to the cancer that is now rotting the financial system.
The choice is to take the medicine now and survive,
or go into denial and probably "kick the bucket" down the road."

"... the massive document that GATA is preparing to deliver
to banking committee members in Washington and other politicians.
One of those politicians is one of the most powerful men in Washington.
He knows of our claims and is making the time to meet with our
delegation."

[End.]

To this "End." I will predict that the role of GATA will soon
come to an "End." as after GATA goes to Washington and delivers
the Talk & Walk stuff they will leave with a feeling of job well done
and an expectation of high drama and events like a Congressional Hearing
to take the GATA cause to the place needed so that quick and strong
action
will occure and prevail.

But it is not to be so.

days will go by
gata waiting for "Breaking News"
and more days and more silence
and gata will "check in" with Washington
and on the Gold Colored Answering Machine Telephone
Bill Murphy will hear the recorded message
"It's in the system, in the pipe line, year 2002 scheduled."
in other words
"Don't call us, we will call you."
in other words
"Get Lost."
in other words
"Working in/thru the system."
"The System Rules."
"Protect the System." (aka) past & present politicians back side

Gold ???
$250 and lower until the storm has passes & damage is contained.

The System = USA Government
it ain't no what happened first, chicken or egg
but is it horse before or after carriage
where carriage = government
and horse = powers that be = money for re-election
and answer is simple
as both are correct
as not only does the horse pull the carriage
the horse also pushes the carriage
or to say
politicans elected by the people
politicans serve the money donations, past & present
as in say anything to get elected
especially
"... i will not do as the last.."
hell, we all got it memorized by now
having hear it each year over and over

Doug & Reality Bites.



To: denekin who wrote (54639)6/19/2000 7:59:00 AM
From: Enigma  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 116764
 
Sale of gold - it won't happen:

1) Who would buy it?
2) In what form would it be delivered?

The only honest way to do it would be for the CBs to mint the gold into coins of the same '9999 purity and exchange the coins for local currency. Maybe there would be a univeral coin. The public would then be free to trade the coins. Anything else would be fraud or robbery. But the value would swiftly become market value not face value. Good money driving out bad, and all that. Gold would then be a bottom line savings and investment vehicle. And it would trade.

But the idea would never fly in Washington and in other capitals - because it would put the spotlight on the fiat and its credibility and fallibility.

PS. BTW cna you print chapter and verse on your source - to show it isn't a hoax - re which BTW a lot of people have risen to take the bait?