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To: cheryl williamson who wrote (47042)	6/20/2000 2:28:00 PM
From: cheryl williamson	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 74651

Here we go again. This is getting to be a weekly occurrence: usatoday.com ASHINGTON - A computer virus that looks like a harmless text file has shut down e-mail systems at four Fortune 100 companies, anti-virus experts said Monday. The virus does no harm to computer files, but similar to May's ''love bug,'' it multiplies by sending itself to everyone listed in the infected computer's address book. Though users are well-warned about VisualBasic attachments, which appear as ''.vbs'' extensions, the ''Stages'' virus looks like a text file, complete with ''.txt'' extension. But the real extension is ''.shs,'' which stands for Windows Shell Scrap Object. A Scrap file can contain anything, including executable and malicious code. ''Due to the infection rate, we're moving it to 'high risk,''' said Sal Viveros, a spokesman for McAfee. C'mon guys, let's hear some more of your endless b.s. about how GREAT Windows is...

To: cheryl williamson who wrote (47042)	6/20/2000 3:02:00 PM
From: david_si	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74651

"M$FT got caught red handed in their attempt to pirate jvm. That's why there are certification tests and that's why M$FT failed the tests." Microsoft's JVM was more compliant than Sun's! I don't know if it still is. In addition, let's say you're a Windows programmer who likes Java. You like it so much that you'd like to add some calls to Win32 functions. Microsoft allowed that in Visual J++, with a setting that allowed such support to be turned on/off. Sun had a fit because it allowed Java do things that were platform specific. Java was more powerful, but it hurt Sun's vision for a non-Windows platform. Consumers benefitted from it, and they could turn it off via the Visual J++ setting. Java attracts people because of garbage-collection, a great syntax, and because of beans/classes. New languages can do the same thing, and unless Java stays attractive, it will become history like other languages. I'm not saying people aren't completely happy with it now, though.

To: cheryl williamson who wrote (47042)	6/20/2000 8:46:00 PM
From: mozek	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74651

I'm sorry Cheryl, but the facts do not seem to support your statements. According to my layman's read, Sun claimed copyright and trademark infringement as detailed in the court documents, which are public record. Sun was successful in getting the court to order Microsoft to resolve the few issues that they found. Microsoft's immediate compliance, once they were notified, allowed them to continue using the Java trademark as originally specified in the agreement. In fact, the court recently ruled that by turning to the courts for remedy rather than providing notice to Microsoft as specified in the agreement, Sun did not comply with the agreement itself. The facts of the court case support my statements, are public record, and are available in the links I provided. Do you have any factual references whatsoever to back up your statements? I have no doubt that if Sun actually complied with the agreement and simply notified Microsoft of the test failures, Microsoft would have fixed the issues as well. I also don't, for one minute, believe that Sun's action had anything to do with making Java better. I believe they wanted to hide the fact that they were unable to compete toe to toe with Microsoft's implementation. Thanks, Mike