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To: jhild who wrote (20896)6/21/2000 11:21:00 AM
From: mr.mark  Respond to of 22053
 
"If the courts were run by popular vote, I think OJ would end up in the gas chamber"

i don't see the problem



To: jhild who wrote (20896)6/21/2000 12:04:00 PM
From: Scrapps  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 22053
 
"If the courts were run by popular vote, I think OJ would end up in the gas chamber."

That works for me, but you swerved and surprised me there jhild.



To: jhild who wrote (20896)6/21/2000 11:53:00 PM
From: Daniel  Respond to of 22053
 
If they were run by casting votes on the internet, then you can bet there would be yet another secret API in the OS that would vote everyone's system on behalf of the Microsoft world view.


Not on my machine (running Linux).

Daniel



To: jhild who wrote (20896)6/28/2000 3:00:00 AM
From: Scrapps  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 22053
 
NEW YORK (CNNfn) - Oracle, one of Microsoft's fiercest software rivals, acknowledged Wednesday that it paid a detective agency to monitor the political activities of Microsoft and its allies for a year.

Oracle said it hired Investigative Group International to expose the Microsoft's "underhanded attempts" to win its antitrust case against the Justice Department, according to a Wednesday report in The Wall Street Journal.

A federal judge ruled June 7 that Microsoft must be broken up into two companies to keep it from engaging in anticompetitive behavior in the future. The case is currently under appeal and could be heard this fall by the Supreme Court.

IGI went to great lengths to trail Microsoft and at least two groups sympathetic to its cause, at one point offering to pay for one group's office trash.

Oracle (ORCL: Research, Estimates) confirmed to CNNfn Wednesday its role in a probe of the Independent Institute of Oakland, Calif. and the National Taxpayers Union of Arlington, Va. The company is also believed to have hired a Washington, D.C. law firm to distribute damaging information on Microsoft to the press.

Oracle spokeswoman Jennifer Glass told CNNfn, "As a result Oracle discovered both the Independent Institute and the National Taxpayer's Union were misrepresenting themselves as independent advocacy groups when in fact they were funded by Microsoft for the express purpose to influence public opinion in favor of Microsoft in the antitrust trial."

The Oracle spokeswoman added, "Microsoft also funded the Association for Competitive Technology for the same purpose. Left undisclosed, these Microsoft front groups could have influenced the outcome of one of the most important antitrust cases in U.S. history."

The Oracle statement continued, "We didn't specify how IGI should go about getting information. We did, however, insist that whatever method must be legal. IGI repeatedly assured us that all their activities were in fact 100 percent legal."

Oracle alleges the above groups, which feigned independence, were actually funded by Microsoft (MSFT: Research, Estimates) to boost public opinion in favor of the Redmond, Wash.-based software maker.

Microsoft spokesman Vivek Varma told CNNfn he first heard the allegation late Tuesday from the newspaper and has no independent confirmation. He said, "it is sad for the industry that a company like Oracle (apparently) did this."

Varma said Microsoft is not at this point accusing Oracle of doing something illegal. He added that he does not know if Chairman Bill Gates or CEO Steve Ballmer are yet aware of the latest published story. Microsoft may have more to say on the subject by late Wednesday morning eastern time.


It's a dog eat dog world.