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To: Paul Engel who wrote (104723)	6/22/2000 2:55:00 AM
From: THE WATSONYOUTH	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 186894

Mula - Re: "My guess will be cpq will hold on and push the alpha design for a few more years to prove to their stock holders that they made a good decision in paying all that money for the DEC purchase (alpha rights)." Engel - Re: "This is probably correct. Compaq may also "convince" Samsung/API to buy the Alpha architecture for some nominal amount, and exit gracefully." Man - you two are really clueless. The current Alpha chip in the new Wildfire system is still in .25um ground rules, built with an apparent mediocre .25um process. That said, they still are the fastest Unix servers out there. The same .25um design with an aggressive .18um process runs well over 1GHz. With a .18um design and process, it could easily reach 1.5GHz. Given that and the tremendous memory bandwidth, Wildfire will blow Itanium away. (IF) Compaq (from now) can get on an aggressive schedule, McKinley will be toast before it ever appears. And I saw where they intend to now port Win2000 to Alpha. THE WATSONYOUTH

To: Paul Engel who wrote (104723)	6/23/2000 10:57:00 AM
From: bhagavathi	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 186894

Paul, TWO 64 bit architectures (ITanium and Alpha) - ignores a third 64 bit architecture - AMD's SludgeHumper. Everybody seems to have an idea of what a 64 bit architecture should be like. e.g. IBM, SUN, ALPHA, IA64, etc. In order to appreciate they need to understand what problem these cpu designers are trying to solve. Or what does it take for these CPU's to deliver the goods of improved performance over the conventional IA32 architecture. Is it tpmc,specFP, specInt or something else? Another interesting question would be to ask what kind of computing changes are dictated upon us by internet? We could very well see the computing market very fragmented (segmented) to address individualized needs (e.g. workstation, db servers, front end web servers, etc). The success or failure of each of these architectures will be dictated by the volume shipment of the respective processors, how deep the pockets of the potential customers, etc. It will be interesting to see if some of them will overlap into the others market segment in the future. I am sure this will be attempted by OEMs, CPU manufacturers and others. Mula