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To: Arrow Hd. who wrote (6478)	6/23/2000 5:33:00 PM
From: Tony Viola	Respond to of 8220

Arrow Hd, I agree with you that you can't tell the "competitors" from the allies anymore in this industry. Intel and copper: they've announced it will be introduced with their 0.13 micron process. I would imagine it's at least in development in pilot fabs right now. It's supposed to come out next year. IBM and Hitachi, sounds like IBM welcomes another company remaining in the S390 space (along with FJ/Amdahl). Good way to help perpetuate the architecture, I guess could be one way to express it. In general, I think IBM is one of the best remaining big R&D shops, probably the best. Tony

To: Arrow Hd. who wrote (6478)	6/26/2000 3:11:00 AM
From: Charles Tutt	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 8220

"... each and every IBM compatible PC sold pays IBM a royalty in some form." Are you sure? What is the royalty for?

To: Arrow Hd. who wrote (6478)	6/26/2000 9:28:00 AM
From: Jules B. Garfunkel	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 8220

Arrow, When IBM first announced "Copper Wired Chips", I guess it was two years ago, Intel was asked if they would adopt similar technology. As I recall, Intel stated, they saw no need to make the changeover for at least the next several years. They went on to state, the current aluminum technology would be sufficient to meet their near term performance requirements. Later, Intel suggested, that they would adopt the new copper technology once the bugs were worked out, and probably incorporate copper into their future .13 micron chips. Now, I don't know if Intel will have to pay IBM a licensing fee for using the "copper wire technology", (Intel had said they were working on their own copper wiring technology at the time of the original IBM announcement), but I am quite sure that they will not be buying "general purpose copper wired chips" from IBM, as your post might suggest. Best Regards, Jules