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To: LLCF who wrote (39)6/28/2000 5:18:00 AM
From: ztect  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 65
 
Some Thoughts on Social Security.....

Privatization, in theory, will supposedly
increase the rates of return making the social
security system more solvent.

The two basic ways in which privatization
is proposed are

1). Let big brother do it for you.
2). Do it for yourself w. a percent of your contributions.

#1 is the Clinton/Gore approach
#2 is the Bush proposal

Both have problems, and don't deal with the real
issues of maintaining Social Security with an
increasingly graying population. Many of these
problems are noted in Nader's article like
increasing fraud, and greater speculation.

Both IMO are ways in which to jump and skip over
that proverbial third rail in politics.

When Social Security was formulated in the 30's
under FDR, it was intended to provide a safety net
for the elderly and those most susceptible. Life
expectancy was also significantly shorter.

During LBJ's administration the fire wall betw.
revenues generated via Social Security taxes
and revenues generated via Income taxes was torn down.
Social Security revenues could and were subsequently
used to fund items in the general budget.

During the Reagan administration while marginal
rates for income taxes were significantly reduced
especially for those with higher incomes and
cap. gains rates were also cut (benefiting those
w. the capital i.e. those were more disposable income),
the social security tax rate was raised
seven times.

Consequently due to the fire wall being removed
during LBJ's administration, and the deficit spending
of the Reagan administration, the money being generated by
social security was being replced by IOU's or T-bills.

Support of government spending thus partly shifted from
income taxes and corporate taxes (which were
also cut) to a flat social security tax of approx.
6 to 7 % .

Income taxes were and are staggered, ie. the more
you make the higher bracket you're in (theoretically).
The Reagan administration flattened these gradations
w/o significantly reducing tax deductions. The
1986 tax reform bill attempted to change tax
code and reduce loop holes, but in many ways, this
Act only created different ways to shelter income.

So the theory of gradation has been undermined
by what are the actual real percentages after deductions
paid on gross receipts. Any true "flattening"
or flat tax has to eliminated nearly all deductions,
and this didn't occur. Politicians as diverse as
Jerry Brown and Steve Forbes agree with this premise.

Now social security again is a flat rate and
only applicable to the first $65 thous of income
made. Thus if you make up to $65 thous. you
pay the full 7% or so your income in taxes.
However if you make $1 mill in income, you
don't pay SS tax on $935,000 of that income
or, in other words, the amount of your income
on which you pay social security tax is less than
1% of real income.

So what does all this mean to "real" social
security reform?

1). The Social Security Fund should again be separate
from general funds. No borrowing from SS
to cook the books or pay for other government programs.

2). Either make a greater portion of income
taxable to the SS tax or means test. The program
was intended for those that are in the greatest
need, not for people who'd like more disposable income.

3). Raise the retirement age incrementally
to 70, with extraordinary relief ie. disability
offered to those at a younger age who truly need to retire
and need the SS benefit. Again when SS was conceived
life expectancy was much much lower.

With these steps, any "schemes" of privatization
wouldn't be necessary, since higher rates of return wouldn't
be gambled upon to generate the foreseen short falls with the current tax rate, government and age structures.

But then again, such changes would infuriate
the AARP and be manipulated to generate fear and angst
especially by Gore, thus rather than real discussions
on how to protect the most in need, no real change
will be proposed out of fear of losing the
support and votes of a well organized constituency.

Social Security IMO like other well intended
programs was conceived during a specific context-
the depression- to meet specific needs of the
most susceptible.

Unfortunately, the program as structured became a
sacred cow or entitlement to which everyone
feels entitled. SS needs to be re-examined
and modified as the context has changed and, thus
be modified accordingly irrespective of the politcal
consequence.

Privatization schemes just demonstrate to me that
neither Bush nor Gore have the steel balls or real
leadership skills to effect meaningful change or reform.

Anyway, time to get off of my soap box.

Any thoughts or reactions?

The soap box is now clear for some one else to stand
upon it.

Sincerely,

z

(spellin' and grammar not checked)