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To: Bill who wrote (83023)	6/28/2000 4:03:00 PM
From: epicure	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

Judgment I have no problem with but what people DESERVE is different. Boy you are slow.

To: Bill who wrote (83023)	6/29/2000 7:53:00 PM
From: nihil	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 108807

I have no trouble deciding. Every jury I have been on has acquitted. I expect every jury that I will be on will acquit. I've never heard a legal argument that convinces beyond a reasonable doubt. I suspect one is possible. We just convicted a man for murdering seven of his fellow workers. I wasn't on the jury. Had I been, he would have found not guilty by reason of insanity or we would have had a hung jury. This killer had nothing to gain from killing his fellow workers. He testified that he thought they were FBI agents plotting against him. Trying to seize his 27 legal guns. Trying to get him fired. Poisoning his koi. Abusing his truck. This man was and is a raving lunatic. Half of the experts thought he was mad, and the others thought not. He will serve seven life sentences without the possibility of parole (unless some future governor decides to parole him.) He will probably not get a chance to serve his 20 to life sentence for attempted murder of his 8th fellow worker. Had he been acquitted for reason of insanity he would have gone to the state hospital. We have 20 or so insane killers there. They get treatment to make them sane so they can be released by the physicians so they can kill again. They play cards and go on supervised release. They talk to reporters. They apply regularly for release. Most of them get out after five years or so. Even so, most of the jurors attempt honestly to decide if the accused is insane. Just reading the newspapers makes me think that most of the killers know what they are doing when they kill is wrong, but simply cannot control themselves. Diminished capacity. I think we've got it backwards. Some killers behave so badly and cruelly that they should be confined forever. They are the insane ones for the most part. IMO they should be locked up with other nuts. Others -- professionals, killers for economic advantage, robbers (felony murder) should be executed if a really convincing case, using all of the knowledge from modern science, can be made. They took a calculated risk and killed. We should correct their arithmetic. I suspect killing mad people does not have much deterrent effect. Increasing the cost of crime for professional criminals should improve the quality of the profession and perhaps reduce the number of recruits.