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To: Eric Fader who wrote (6)6/30/2000 4:04:50 PM
From: StockDung  Respond to of 32
 
Yes, James Neil, Randys source was a little off on WAMEX. I guess he believed in the GLOSSY investor package Veritas had issued to the public. He must have believed his own lies. Randy will burn in hell one day.

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To: Eric Fader who wrote (6)7/28/2000 5:34:47 PM
From: StockDung  Respond to of 32
 
e-commerce group inc. Acquires Sports Fitness & Leisure Ltd.


Acquisition Represents e-commerce's First Move Into European E-Commerce Market

LONDON, July 19 /PRNewswire/ -- e-commerce group, inc. (OTC Bulletin Board: ECGM) ("e-commerce" or the "Company"), today announced that it has acquired Sports, Fitness & Leisure Limited (SFL) of Ampfield, Hampshire, England, a financial services marketing e-commerce portal. SFL presently focuses on marketing 'stakeholder' pensions to employers in partnership with The Prudential Assurance Company Limited. The acquisition represents the first stage in the strategic business development of e-commerce group, inc. and its entrance to the European market.

SFL intends to become the dominant UK portal serving the lifestyle, financial and health needs of small and medium-sized businesses in the sports, fitness and leisure industries and their employees. SFL's first significant offering to its members will be a form of stakeholder pension plan, which will become compulsory for all UK employers employing more than five persons beginning in October 2001. Since its formation, SFL has worked closely with government and industry leaders in structuring the reform of social security systems and in particular the introduction of stakeholder pensions. Since 1996, Richard Nichols, Managing Director of SFL, has worked closely with the CATO Institute in the field of world-wide welfare reform and the process of pension reform. Their foresight and vision will give SFL a leading role in the provision of the new pensions once the new policy comes into effect in April 2001. e-commerce and SFL believe that a significant portion of membership in such schemes will result from Internet based applications such as those developed by SFL. e-commerce plans to secure a dominant position in the UK pensions market in alliance with UK pensions giant, The Prudential Assurance Company Limited.

Under the terms of the acquisition agreement, e-commerce acquired all of the outstanding stock of SFL for 385,000 shares of e-commerce common stock (valued at approximately US$1,235,000). The Company also has an obligation within the next 12 months to either pay US$350,000 in cash or to deliver a further 107,700 shares of its common stock. e-commerce will use the purchase method of accounting for this acquisition and will evaluate in-process research and development to determine the extent of any one-time charge to be taken against income for U.S. GAAP purposes. Additionally, e-commerce anticipates taking a one-time restructuring charge.

"The acquisition of SFL represents a significant step in the development of our strategy to address large market opportunities world-wide with highly scaleable B2B and B2C software engines and business processes," said Tony Arnold, President and C.E.O. of e-commerce group, inc. "The continuing development of the SFL business model, under the direction and support of e-commerce group, inc. and in partnership with Prudential, provides us with the opportunity to develop leading-edge internet-based sales and marketing processes to support the on-line sales of financial services products to the small to medium size enterprises (SMEs) and their employees. It also gives us an excellent foundation to develop other membership and affinity-based services and vertical applications for the broader SME B2B market."

On completion of the acquisition, Richard Nichols, Managing Director of SFL commented, "I am extremely pleased to join with e-commerce group, inc. As part of the group, we can solidify our business strategy and help change the future of financial services and the look of on-line membership structures."

Following the completion of the acquisition, Richard Nichols, Managing Director of SFL has been appointed a member of the Board of Directors of e-commerce group, inc.

About e-commerce group inc.

e-commerce group, inc., is an information technology company focussed on developing worldwide B2B and B2C markets. Incorporated in the US and headquartered in the UK, its initial operations are being deployed in the UK commencing with the acquisition of SFL. It intends to extend operations to the US and throughout the EU. The Company continues to seek acquisitions, mergers or partnerships with key related businesses to support the development of its corporate objectives and is seeking additional funds through either debt or equity financings in order to finance the purchase of SFL and provide working capital. There can be no assurance that any such financings will be obtained.

Forward-Looking Statements.

This release contains forward-looking statements, including statements about the Company's plans, objectives, expectations and intentions and the financial and other contributions expected from the acquisition of SFL. Actual results may be materially different than those anticipated in these forward-looking statements. Factors that could cause actual results to materially differ include known and unknown risks, including, without limitation, the early stage of the business-to-business e-commerce market, the Company's ability to manage its growth, the ability of the Company to develop and successfully market new products, the Company's ability to successfully integrate the operations of SFL, the continuation of SFL's alliance with Prudential, the retention of key technical and other personnel, rapid technological change and intense competition, as well as other risks set forth in the Company's filings with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission. The Company cautions readers not to place undue reliance upon any such forward-looking statements, which speak only as of the date made. The Company expressly disclaims any obligation or undertaking to release publicly any updates or revisions to any such statement to reflect any change in the Company's expectations or any change in events, conditions or circumstance on which any such statement is based.

CONTACT: Mr. James Neil, Director of Investor Relations, North American investors, 877-341-1411, or UK investors, 08000-285-663, or investor@e-com-group.com

SOURCE e-commerce group, inc.

CO: e-commerce group, inc.; Sports, Fitness & Leisure Limited

ST: England

IN: CPR MLM FIN

SU: TNM

07/19/2000 09:00 EDT prnewswire.com



To: Eric Fader who wrote (6)7/28/2000 5:47:23 PM
From: StockDung  Respond to of 32
 
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By: smallcappro0001 $
Reply To: 30 by lewis33 $ Thursday, 27 Jul 2000 at 1:31 PM EDT
Post # of 31


Lewis, thanks for the post on the release...I have heard there are several releases due out in the next few days..If anyone has heard anything please post...I have heard bit and peices but want to wait and see if they are true...If so, the longs will have a runner with this very shortly...Hope everyone is having a good week in the market...smallcappro (RBERG02054@AOL>COM)

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To: Eric Fader who wrote (6)7/28/2000 6:32:42 PM
From: StockDung  Respond to of 32
 
offshore-iom.com

Registrant:
Fortress Management Services Ltd (OFFSHORE-IOM-DOM)
97 Cronk Liauyr Tromofr
Douglas, IM2 5LR
UK

Domain Name: OFFSHORE-IOM.COM

Administrative Contact:
FROST, GARETH (GF567) technical@ENTERPRISE.NET
ENTERPRISE PLC
PO BOX 166
DOUGLAS, ISLE OF MAN
IM99 6GQ
UK
+44 1624 696666 (FAX) +44 1624 696671
Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
Naylor, Darren (DN131) djn@ENTERPRISE.NET
Enterprise PLC
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+44 1624 677666 (FAX) +44 1624 613660
Billing Contact:
Huxley, Jon (JH1067) jon@ENTERPRISE.NET
Enterprise PLC
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UK
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Record last updated on 03-Feb-1997.
Record expires on 14-Aug-2000.
Record created on 13-Aug-1995.
Database last updated on 27-Jul-2000 06:19:56 EDT.

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To: Eric Fader who wrote (6)8/28/2000 10:50:21 AM
From: StockDung  Respond to of 32
 
UPDATE->ECGM - E-COMMERCE GROUP INC Portrait of a pump and dump.
More info to soon follow on this Randy Berg scam on the public

E-COMMERCE GROUP INC

Prices : 08/04/00 through 08/25/00

Ticker: ECGM

Date Volume High/Ask Low/Bid Close
-------- ---------- ---------- ---------- ----------
08/04/00 2,900 3 1/8 3 1/8 3 1/8
08/07/00 3,200 3 3/8 3 3/16 3 3/16
08/08/00 1,000 3 3/8 3 3/16 3 1/4
08/09/00 1,000 3 1/4 3 1/4 3 1/4
08/10/00 12,500 3 1/2 3 3 1/2
08/11/00 20,200 3 1/2 2 15/16 3 3/8
08/16/00 38,900 3 3/8 3 1/4 3 1/4
08/17/00 3,000 3 3/8 3 5/16 3 3/8
08/18/00 23,300 3 3/8 3 1/8 3 1/8
08/21/00 9,400 2 7/8 2 5/8 2 5/8
08/22/00 2,700 3 1/8 2 3/8 3 1/8
08/23/00 87,700 3 3/4 3 3 3/16
08/24/00 18,500 3 7/16 2 7/8 2 7/8
08/25/00 240,200 3 1/16 1 3/16 1 3/16

ECGM: E-COMMERCE GROU
Time Last Change
10:44 1.19 -0.03
Bid(Size) Ask(Size) Volume
1.19(5) 1.34(5) 71,000
Open High Low
1 3/4 1 3/4 1.19
#Trades Avg Size Last Size
56 1,267 200
52WkHi 52WkLo Last Tics
0 0 -+--



To: Eric Fader who wrote (6)8/31/2000 11:07:37 AM
From: StockDung  Respond to of 32
 
$3 1/2 to 44 cents. Boiler Room rope-a-dope Randy Berg strikes again

ECGM: E-COMMERCE GROU
Time Last Change
10:37 0.44 -0.31
Bid(Size) Ask(Size) Volume
0.40(50) 0.53(25) 106,600
Open High Low
3/4 3/4 0.44
#Trades Avg Size Last Size
30 3,553 5,000
52WkHi 52WkLo Last Tics
0 0 +-+-



To: Eric Fader who wrote (6)8/31/2000 5:42:59 PM
From: StockDung  Respond to of 32
 
"VIP-1999 and all.............What a pleasure it is to see a board with some investors with some moxy..This issue is down and we all know why, but instead of bitching and moaning about it the people here are buying to cut their average.....Very-Very smart move as I don't believe you will see these prices again after the next couple of days..Good luck to all and lets keep the info highway on here as good as it has been...smallcappro...(RBERG02054@AOL.COM)"

By: smallcappro0001 $$
Reply To: 114 by vip1999 $$$ Wednesday, 30 Aug 2000 at 9:33 PM EDT
Post # of 131


VIP-1999 and all.............What a pleasure it is to see a board with some investors with some moxy..This issue is down and we all know why, but instead of bitching and moaning about it the people here are buying to cut their average.....Very-Very smart move as I don't believe you will see these prices again after the next couple of days..Good luck to all and lets keep the info highway on here as good as it has been...smallcappro...(RBERG02054@AOL.COM)

(Voluntary Disclosure: Position- Long; ST Rating- Strong Buy; LT Rating- Strong Buy)

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To: Eric Fader who wrote (6)10/20/2000 10:35:07 AM
From: StockDung  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 32
 
Return to sender
IR disconnected the phone
no such number
James Neil aint on the phone

Well this stock was a rigg from the start
and Randy Berg did the Boiler-Room-Rope-A-Dope well
The stock was at $3 3/4
and now it bid 21 cents OH WELL, they aint ever comin back

The operater said return to sender
IR disconnected the phone
no such number
James Neil disconnected the phone

Well the hapless victims on ragingbull
are starting to scratch their heads
all the offshore crooks sold their stock
and they aint ever coming back

Return to sender
IR disconnected the phone
no such number
James Neil aint on the phone

Subj: Case of the missing IR

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By: jeffreon $$$
Reply To: 1290 by firefly911 $$$ Thursday, 19 Oct 2000 at 11:30 AM EDT
Post # of 1297


More to the puzzle...Called I.R. number not in service anymore...Can't get a hold of Jame Neil.. Might not be a bad thing, but who knows.I guess the Brits. took over this co. Try the # gang 87734111411.

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By: Mich25 $$
Reply To: None Thursday, 19 Oct 2000 at 12:28 PM EDT
Post # of 1297


Since they have new directors the IR is no longer with the Company, just to clarify that up...he came aboard with Tony Arnold and appears to have left along with him too

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E COMMERCE GROUP INC filed this 8-K on 10/17/2000.

UNITED STATES
SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION
Washington, DC 20549

FORM 8-K
CURRENT REPORT

Pursuant to Section 13 or 15(d) of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934

DATE OF REPORT (DATE OF EARLIEST EVENT REPORTED) OCTOBER 17, 2000


E-COMMERCE GROUP INC.
(Exact name of registrant as specified in its charter)







Nevada 000-27139 88-0293704
(State of (Commission (I.R.S. Employer
organization) File Number) Identification No.)

3675 Pecos-McLeod, Suite 1400, Las Vegas, NV 89121
(Address of principal executive offices)

Registrant's telephone number, including area code (702) 866-2500

ITEM 6. RESIGNATIONS OF REGISTRANTS' DIRECTORS

On October 17, 2000, a majority of the shareholders through a
consent in lieu of special meeting dismissed three of the
board members, consisting of Tony Arnold, Jeremy Payne and
Richard Nichols.

On October 17, 2000, the shareholders appointed Collin Gray,
Gary Gray and Daniel Gray to fill the vacancies created by
the dismissal of the three board members, effective
immediately.

On October 17, 2000, the Company accepted the resignation of
David Wong as the Secretary and Treasurer of the Company. The
board of directors elected Collin Gray as the President and
Daniel Gray as the Secretary and Treasurer of the Company.

SIGNATURES

Pursuant to the requirements of the Securities Exchange Act
of 1934, the Registrant has duly caused this registration
statement to be signed on its behalf by the undersigned,
thereunto duly authorized.



e-commerce group Inc.



By: /s/ Collin Gray
Collin Gray, President



Date: October 17, 2000



To: Eric Fader who wrote (6)4/28/2003 2:53:22 PM
From: StockDung  Respond to of 32
 
"The records of the Indiana Secretary of State list “Stephen Carnes” as the Incorporator, Registered Agent and Secretary for a company called Research Capital Group, Inc – formerly known as DiabloStocks, Inc. In the past, we have received e-mails from DiabloStocks, Inc. promoting a series of obscure public companies. DiabloStocks conceded that it had received shares of the companies it was touting – just like the newsletters that have been hyping Valde Connections."

"Was the DiabloStocks that was sending those e-mails the same entity that we found incorporated in Indiana? If so, is the Stephen Carnes who is now running Valde Connections the same individual who was associated with DiabloStocks? Is that the kind of “experience” that should give investors comfort?"

VALDE CONNECTIONS, INC. (OTCBB: VLDE) PART III – IN SEARCH OF SPA-ING PARTNERS
April 28, 2003

Valde Connections, Inc (OTCBB: VLDE) has yet to open a hair salon, spa, or modeling agency, but that has not stopped a band of promoters (or perhaps just one busy tout using a variety of handles) from disseminating a seemingly endless series of e-mails recommending the stock. As we saw in Part II of this series, one notable e-mail, dated February 20, 2003, seemed to have been sent through a time warp since it referenced a series of press releases that had not yet been issued.

Was the some logical explanation for this oddity? If so, the newsletters did not provide it.

The Hype Goes On

And the promoters were not finished. Similar newsletters continued to be distributed by e-mail over the next two months – this time referring to each of the Company’s press releases after they actually were issued. In general, they repeated the unbridled enthusiasm of the earliest recommendations – albeit in a more timely fashion.

Several versions, which began to appear in our e-mail on February 24th and continued to pop up until March 2nd, again highlighted the Company’s online “sweepstakes.” Although the Company was offering a modest prize – including a trip for two to Orlando- - the newsletters were headlined “Bulletin: News is out? Once people get wind of this news we feel [Valde] will move up swiftly.”

Surely they could not seriously have believed that the prospect of a $2,500 prize could cause the shares of any company to soar.

The next series of newsletters arrived in our e-mail on February 28th, headlined “Bulletin: News is out! Once people get wind of this news, we feel [Valde] could double or triple in price.” The news? The Company’s February 28th press release announcing negotiations to open its first “store front” at an unidentified location. Such scant information was hardly calculated to cause shares to increase to any meaningful extent.

Still the promoters did not miss a beat. On March 3rd they again distributed newsletters lauding the Company’s association with Brickhouse, the personal trainer who, according to the touts, works “five or sex times a week” with one time Playboy cover girl and WWF wrestler, Rena Mero. This time they pointed to Ms. Mero’s website (which features pictures of the wrestling/sex star and photos of her cat, her poodle, her Labradors) and declared “now do you see why Brickhouse’s decision to join Valde Connections is so meaningful?”

We think most investors could answer that question with a single word. No.

Unabashedly, the promotion continued. Recently, on April 22, 2003, the Company announced plans for a “strategic consulting agreement” with Rena Productions LLC, the entity that promotes Rena Mero. According to the press release, Rena Productions LLC will help the Company develop public awareness. Valde Connections says it wants to take advantage of the “contacts” it will develop through that relationship. First, however, the Company may want to move forward with plans to open its first facility.

On March 21st the newsletters declared “[n]ews is out!” but cautioned that the latest revelations from Valde Connections were “not anywhere near as exciting as the type of news we expect very soon.”

This time the newsletters were making a timely reference to a March 21st press release from Valde Connections which said that representatives of the Company had met with an architect to discuss plans for a salon and day spa at Hilton Head’s Main Street Inn. Technically, this may have been “news” – but it hardly constituted meaningful information. Had the Company finalized an agreement with the Main Street Inn? If so, what were its terms? Investors were left to wonder.

Just days later, as Valde Connections stock inched forward a few pennies, the promoters were quick to declare that their predictions were coming true. A March 23rd set of e-mails proclaimed, in bold green print:

We informed many of you over a week ago that we expected much from [Valde] this past week and you surely must admit [Valde] did NOT disappoint! It climbed from a low of .16 on March 14 to close at .23 on March 21 for a gain of 43%. And we expect much more this week and the next also.

They did not mention that the Valde Connection stock had traded as high as 31 cents on March 3rd, and 24 cents on March 13th before dipping briefly to 16 cents on March 14th.

The stock was moving sideways – at best – not surging upward as the promoters implied. Undaunted, the promoters continued to ignore the reality of these numbers in a March 30th e-mail that began by noting with satisfaction “[o]n March 14 [Valde] was trading at .16. On Friday, March 28 [it] hit an intra-day high of .27, for a percentage gain of over 65%.”

To what did they attribute that “impressive” rise (which still fell short of March 3rd prices)? Here’s what the self-effacing touts had to say this time:

Based upon our vast experience in this business the *huge* volume on Friday March 28, coupled with the price increase from .16 on March 14 to the intra-day high of .27 on Friday March 28 VERY often portends the expectation of very good news from the Company. And IN FACT we are hearing VERY strong rumors that [Valde Connections] might well be issuing more than one announcement of very good news, spanning the next several trading days.

Exactly what constituted the “vast experience” of these anonymous stock shills? They had yet to identify themselves – beyond the various colorful names of their “newsletters.” Where were they hearing these rumors? Perhaps from the “unaffiliated” and unidentified “third-parties” whom the newsletters repeatedly acknowledged had paid them to circulate the promotional materials. Disclaimers at the end of each newsletter revealed that those third-parties had paid cash ($50,000) and delivered Valde Connections common stock (ranging from 50,000 to 150,000 shares) to have them spread the word on the Company.

As for that “huge” volume on March 28th – 594,000 shares, the most important question remains. Who was selling the stock? Or the 636,000 shares that traded on March 31st and the 559,000 shares that changed hands on April 1st.

And what of the experience of the people now running Valde Connections? The Company describes its president, Stephen Carnes, as an “entrepreneur,” but offers no details of his entrepreneurial background. We conducted a search for “Stephen Carnes,” and discovered one individual with that name who has had an intriguing professional history.

The records of the Indiana Secretary of State list “Stephen Carnes” as the Incorporator, Registered Agent and Secretary for a company called Research Capital Group, Inc – formerly known as DiabloStocks, Inc. In the past, we have received e-mails from DiabloStocks, Inc. promoting a series of obscure public companies. DiabloStocks conceded that it had received shares of the companies it was touting – just like the newsletters that have been hyping Valde Connections.

Was the DiabloStocks that was sending those e-mails the same entity that we found incorporated in Indiana? If so, is the Stephen Carnes who is now running Valde Connections the same individual who was associated with DiabloStocks? Is that the kind of “experience” that should give investors comfort?

News Yes. But Newsworthy?

The newsletters continued to arrive in early April, noting at one point that an unnamed “major” investor relations firm would soon represent Valde Connections. On April 9th, the hype became more aggressive with a “Bulletin” announcing that “after-market news is out!” and predicting that “once people get wind of this news, we feel [Valde] should move up swiftly.”

This time the news was a press release, dated April 9th, announcing that the Company had entered into a Letter of Intent to acquire a “Clinical Day Spa and Salon” in Central Florida. A statement from the Company’s CEO, Stephen Carnes implied that the acquisition was “profitable,” but offered no financial details. Indeed, the press release did not disclose any terms of the Letter of Intent or reveal the location of the salon and spa.

The press release said that the Company would continue to focus on the acquisition of profitable spas and salons, and to pursue partnerships with resort hotels. It did not suggest that any other acquisitions were imminent, or mention the status of the Hilton Head property.

Almost as an afterthought, the press release stated that Valde Connections had received a proposed term sheet from a New York based investment banking firm. The Company did not provide the name of that firm or the terms of the proposal, saying only that the investment banking firm was being engaged to raise funds for its mid-term capital requirements.

This sounds like news – but is it really newsworthy? The press release contained no meaningful details of the potential acquisition or the pending investment banking relationship.

Such shortcomings did not deter the promoters, who used their April 9th newsletters to exclaim:

Take a GOOD look at that news. A REAL good look. Now is this a serious OTC BB stock in your educated opinion? Well it *SURE* is in our opinion! It surely appears that [Valde] intends on becoming a Conglomerate. And does this not sound like [Valde] is on the verge of acquiring funding? Yep, sure does! So, is this a .30 stock? Nope, sure isn't. Try $1.25. And climbing.

We listened, took a “GOOD” look, and concluded that the “news” lacked critical details. The Company might be serious about its plans, but, so far, it had yet to open a single salon and spa, or demonstrate an ability to compete in the highly competitive world of modeling. Before the Company can become a conglomerate, it will have to prove that it can successfully operate a single business.

Needless to say, there appears to be no legitimate justification for the projected price increase. Certainly, the “news” did little to enhance the value of the Company.

As for the true value of that 30 cents stock - volume has remained high, perhaps reflecting a rush by unidentified individuals to dump shares. But, as of April 17th the price of Valde Connections stock had dropped to 22 cents a share.

Of course, the promoters had an answer for that as well. A fresh set of newsletters, dated April 20th, characterized the drop as “profit taking” in advance of the three day Easter weekend. The promoters insisted that Valde Connections remained a “huge bargain” based upon the promoters’ “vast experience in this business.”

Their efforts to resurrect interest apparently met with success. On April 21st the share price rose to 27 cents, prompting the promoters to rush out yet another e-mail, declaring:

…those who sold made a *huge* mistake. LOOK at the volume on Monday April 21 and the price gain! Why?..Because this kind of extremely high (in fact, RECORD) Volume almost always precedes major news.

How could they be so sure? The promoters again referred to their “vast experience in this business,” and confided that they had been “hearing VERY strong rumors” that Valde Connections might be announcing “VERY good news” in the coming days.

Would you want to take their word – either on the extent of their “experience,” the significance of the impending “news,” or the future of Valde Connections? By April 25th the stock price had dropped to 25 cents.

Investors can only wonder whether, at 22 cents, 25 cents, or 27 cents a share, the Company remains overpriced as well as over promoted..

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