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To: brad greene who wrote (13505)7/1/2000 7:04:18 AM
From: Mr. Pink  Read Replies (4) | Respond to of 18998
 
Who are you, bufoon, to come to this hallowed ground and speak thusly to Mr. P$nk? Minions, inform this dullard to whom he speaks. Bow and beg forgiveness.

As for the wires, He hopes, in His infinite compassion that you read the Moody's downgrade which, because He is generous, just, kind and all-knowing, He will share with you here. Note that whilst the fools, yahoos, morons and unbathed were celebrating and marking the stock up for quarter end, bonds dropped 6%.

CONSECO & AFFILIATES' CREDIT RTGS DOWNGRADED (SR TO Baa3) (CNC)
6/30/0 12:57 (New York)

New York New York
Patrick Finnegan Edward Young
Senior Vice President Managing Director
Financial Institutions Group Financial Institutions Group
Moody's Investors Service Moody's Investors Service
JOURNALISTS: (212) 553-0376 JOURNALISTS: (212) 553-0376
SUBSCRIBERS: (212) 553-1653 SUBSCRIBERS: (212) 553-1653

MOODY'S DOWNGRADES CREDIT RATINGS OF CONSECO AND AFFILIATES (SENIOR DEBT
TO Ba3); RATING AGENCY EXPRESSES CONCERNS OVER COMPANY'S FINANCIAL
FLEXIBILITY

Approximately $9 Billion of Debt Securities Affected.

New York, June 30, 2000 -- Moody's Investors Service has downgraded the
credit ratings of Conseco, Inc. and its affiliates (senior debt rating to
Ba3 from Ba1). The ratings remain on review -- direction uncertain --
pending further reports from Conseco about the sale of its finance unit
and its efforts to refinance its bank obligations due in September 2000.

The downgrade primarily reflects Moody's view that the company's financial
flexibility over the next 3 months will become increasingly tied to
whether it reaches a definitive agreement to sell its finance unit or
refinance certain obligations coming due in September 2000.

Moody's stated that it believes Conseco has less financial flexibility
over the near term compared with the company's financial position at the
time of Moody's last rating action -- April 20, 2000.

The rating agency said that it has become more difficult to sell finance
company assets in recent months. At a minimum, Conseco must recover the
value of its intercompany loan in order for Moody's to maintain a senior
unsecured debt rating in the Ba category.

Moreover, Moody's believes that a comprehensive restructuring of the
company's capital has become essential to its future viability. The
rating agency believes a restructuring involving some combination of
additional equity contributions and an exchange or reduction of
indebtedness is needed to lighten the burden of debt service requirements
on the insurance subsidiaries.

Moody's emphasized that a protracted sales process for the finance unit
heightens concerns about Conseco' financial flexibility and raises the
risk for Conseco that it may lose the confidence of its insurance
distribution channels.

Moody's considers the appointment of Gary Wendt as Chairman and Chief
Executive Officer of Conseco a positive development, but his appointment
obviously does not eliminate Conseco's financial challenges. The future
direction of the ratings is in doubt because of the uncertainty
surrounding the timing of the sale of Conseco Finance and the amount and
use of proceeds. Ultimately, Conseco's ratings will depend on whether
management can swiftly resolve its immediate challenges and maintain a
balance between the interests of creditors and shareholders, alike.

The following existing ratings for Conseco and its affiliates were
downgraded and placed under review -- direction uncertain:

Conseco, Inc. -- senior debt rating to Ba3 from Ba1; prospective senior
debt shelf rating to (P) Ba3 from (P) Ba1; senior subordinated debt shelf
rating to (P) B1 from (P) Ba2; junior subordinated debt shelf rating to
(P) B3 from (P) Ba3; subordinated deferrable debenture rating to B1 from
Ba2; junior subordinated deferrable debenture rating to B3 from Ba3;
preferred stock rating to "b3" from "ba3"; prospective preferred stock
shelf rating to (P) "b3" from (P) "ba3"; and prospective noncumulative
preferred stock shelf rating to (P) "caa" from (P)"ba3";

Conseco Financing Trusts I, II, III, IV, V, VI, and VII -- preferred
stock ratings to "b3" from "ba3";

Conseco Financing Trusts IV,V,VI, VII, VIII, IX and X -- prospective
preferred stock shelf ratings to (P) "b3" from (P) "ba3".

Conseco Annuity Assurance Company -- insurance financial strength rating
to Baa3 from Baa1;

Bankers Life and Casualty Company -- insurance financial strength rating
to Baa2 from Baa1;

Conseco Variable Insurance Company -- insurance financial strength rating
to Baa3 from Baa1;

Conseco Senior Health Insurance Company -- insurance financial strength
rating to Baa3 from Baa1;

Conseco Health Insurance Company -- insurance financial strength rating
to Baa3 from Baa1;

Conseco Direct Life Insurance Company -- insurance financial strength
rating to Baa3 from Baa1;

Conseco Life Insurance Company -- insurance financial strength rating to
Baa3 from Baa1;

Washington National Insurance Company -- insurance financial strength
rating to Baa3 from Baa1.

The followings ratings of Conseco Finance were downgraded and placed under
review -- direction uncertain:

Conseco Finance Corp. -- senior debt rating to Ba3 from Ba1; prospective
senior debt shelf rating to (P) Ba3 from (P) Ba1; senior subordinated
debt rating to B1 from Ba2; prospective senior subordinated debt shelf
rating to (P) B1 from (P) Ba2; prospective cumulative preferred stock
shelf rating to (P) "b3" from (P) "ba3"; prospective noncumulative
preferred stock shelf rating to (P) "caa" from (P) "b1"; the company's
short-term debt rating for commercial paper was confirmed at Not Prime.

GT Capital Trusts I, II, III, and IV -- preferred shelf ratings to (P)
"b3" from (P) "ba3"

Conseco [NYSE: CNC] is a specialized financial services holding company
which, through its subsidiaries, operates in two major lines of business,
insurance and fee based operations through its life and health insurance
companies, and finance operations primarily through Conseco Finance. As
of March 31, 2000, the company reported consolidated GAAP assets of $55
billion and shareholders' equity of $5.4 billion. Conseco is
headquartered in Carmel, Indiana, USA.

visit our website at www.moodys.com/insurance

mr. P$nk



To: brad greene who wrote (13505)7/4/2000 9:23:39 PM
From: Sir Auric Goldfinger  Respond to of 18998
 
RE Conseco, GE had NO choice but to take stock, you mini-MOron. How dare you speak foul words in such a sacred place. You know noooooothing.



To: brad greene who wrote (13505)7/5/2000 1:34:23 PM
From: Mr. Pink  Read Replies (5) | Respond to of 18998
 
Your long cnc trade is not working so well, you pinhead. Never disrespect Mr. P$nk, His holy lordship.

mp