To: bill who wrote (55597 ) 7/2/2000 6:19:34 AM From: d:oug Respond to of 116767 bill,<p><br> Your post contains in both observations and questions<br><br> a lot of the most difficult topics discussed on this thread.<p><br> First let me mention another site that is less distracted<br><br> from off the wall type guys like I and a few others that<br><br> at least once a week feel the urge to "take over" this thread<br><br> and pull it away from the wrong path being taken and back<br><br> to the path that will lead to an aWaking.<p><p>egroups.com This place has nice people along with the nicest ones<br><br> from this thread (thats why i not there, i just trouble)<br><br> and they know where to research other sites to obtain<br><br> articles about your comments and question, like...<p><br> If gold is treated as a commodity does it not fall, too? <br><br> If it is treated as a currency vis a vis the dollar,<br><br> then will it not automaticallly appreciate along with <br><br> other currencies?<p><br> Now here is my slant on things.<p><br> Prior to the creation of the Gold Anti Trust Action GATA<br><br> organization, and in parallel the Le Metropole Cafe by the<br><br> same person of Bill Murphy, I was neither reading or<br><br> posting on this thread.<p><br> My observations for the past year is that the views of GATA<br><br> have been represented in posts that have deviated from how<br><br> analysis has been presented in the past, and to the present<br><br> time the likes of that post you referenced is still close to an<br><br> off topic on this thread since it looks at the gold market being<br><br> in a manipulated mode with deep roots that identify that the<br><br> price of gold and its use as a store of value not being that <br><br> which is the target, but only as a means to another end.<p><br> In my opinion the comments and questions you presented<br><br> for a discussion to expand into these areas will not occur<br><br> on this thread because the main means of focus is through<br><br> the workings of markets and things like supply and demand<br><br> rather than avenues I see as better to understand and explain<br><br> and predict with an objective to deal with an bad and make it<br><br> into a good and correct. For example Ron Reece takes the<br><br> opposite tack as I and accepts that whatever is, is being what is<br><br> and will also be tomorrow, and as such we should not question if<br><br> it should be studied to determine if changes should be made.<br><br> Please note that Ron feels studies have already been made<br><br> through a review of history that tells the story of what is "is",<br><br> and I counter that the history Ron holds is correct in fact<br><br> but incorrect in message since it's presentation has been,<br><br> to use the M word, manipulated.<p><p> aka Battle between Good & Evil<br> The focus of the text I presented came from thoughts <br><br> I obtained from reading an article from the pay per view <br><br> web site LeMetropoleCafe.com that presents articles<br><br> from many well established people that all hold a very<br><br> strong and determined view on "what it all about".<p><br> ??? was there a song/movie in 1960's Alfie ... what it all about...???<p><br> Follows is the type of material presented at the Cafe,<br><br> and it is not your CNBC or CNN empty air variety.<p><br> Discussion du jour: <br><br> The Tolouse-Lautrec Table<br><br> 7/1 Bob Chapman<br><br> Excerpts from The International Forecaster - World Markets<p><br> BROCKTON MANAGEMENT & INVESTMENTS CO., LTD.<br><br> P. O. Box 510518, Punta Gorda, FL 33951<br><br> Phone & Fax: 941-639-4756<br><br> E-Mail: brockton_magt@hotmail.com<br><br> THE INTERNATIONAL FORECASTER JULY, 2000 (1)<br><br> An international financial, economic, political and social commentary.<br><br> Published and Edited by: Bob Chapman Vol. 4 - No. 7-1<br><br> Phone & Fax: 941 639 4756<br><br> E-mail: brockton_magt@hotmail.com<p><br> WORLD MARKETS<p><br> We are sure you.....<p><br> ... no question citizens of every country <br><br> would be stripped of their rights <br><br> under this guise of peace. <p><br> The result would be global tyranny. <p><br> Human rights are natural rights <br><br> and they transcend the state. <p><br> The UN believes rights come from government <br><br> as promulgated by the elite. They forget if the <br><br> government is the source of our rights <br><br> than government may properly redefine, <br><br> restrict or eradicate rights whenever it <br><br> chooses to do so, that in turn is a <br><br> usurpation of human rights. <p><br> The UN and its elitists want to play God <br><br> and a pagan one at that.<p><br>