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Politics : About that Cuban boy, Elian -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: greenspirit who wrote (7959)7/2/2000 6:37:26 PM
From: Dayuhan  Read Replies (5) | Respond to of 9127
 
why did our government change its initial position and not allow the case to be handled in family court? Politics, pure and simple.

Hasn't it been explained 10,000 times or more that the family courts have no jurisdiction over illegal aliens, and that the parole system (unique to Cubans) under which Elian was staying did not change that status, and that therefore the INS had sole jurisdiction? The degree of force used to enforce the order to turn him over may have been reprehensible, but the legality of the order itself was beyond question.

The law, pure and simple.

My own feeling on the relatives is that from the moment they announced their intention to hold onto the boy they were acting as stooges for the CANF crowd, which is every inch a political organisation. They were playing politics as much as anyone; they had the misfortune to lose. I suspect also that once the case is out of the public eye the goodies they've been getting from the CANF leaders will very quickly evaporate.

BTW, the US Navy was in town not long ago, first port call in many years. I was amazed by the lack of security. Joey wanted to have a look at the ships, so we took the sailboat out and went over. I was expecting to be chased off before we got too close, but we were allowed to sail right up to them. A couple of jetskis were doing the same. One muslim fanatic with a jetski, 20 kilos of plastic explosive, and a firm conviction in the greatness of God could have made a real mess out there. Those boys should be more careful....



To: greenspirit who wrote (7959)7/2/2000 8:37:03 PM
From: Lane3  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 9127
 
I don't know why I keep offering you plausible alternatives to your conclusions. They don't seem to make a dent. But here's another one, anyway.

After all, why did our government change its initial position and not allow the case to be handled in family court? Politics, pure and simple.

It's not unusual for some political, in the heat of a breaking situation, to say something off the cuff or after consultation with a bunch of trusted fellow politicals, after which their civil-servant General Counsels and their civil-servant program minions finally get their ears and tell them the right answer. Then the minions get to find some way to frame things so the boss doesn't look like a complete idiot. Happens all the time. This one could have happened that way, as well. I know it's not as much fun as a conspiracy between Clinton and Castro, but it's at least as likely a scenario. At the very least, it has to give you reasonable doubt.

Karen