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To: Lane3 who wrote (8092)	7/3/2000 8:36:48 PM
From: X Y Zebra	Respond to of 9127

Are you sure you don't have a streak of preacher or politician in you? LOL OUCH Karen... I thought you refrained from name calling. g As for the Y2K crew... I would not worry about them, actually they caused a sea of liquidity from the Feds, now mopping it up they say, (draining it). But not near the "disaster" they were projecting... From your link: I've been reading "Sleeping with Extra-Terrestrials: The Rise of Irrationalism and Perils of Piety." If you haven't seen it, it's about the amazing amoung of superstition there is, even in this day and age. amazon.com Religion is art, as well as politics; it comprises the personal, individual experience of divinity, or the supernatural, and the theologies, social institutions, and bureacracies that follow. I focus alternately on both the personal and the political (and I include in my definition of religion established denominations and New Age). I don't envision this book as an attack upon organized religion, individual religious beliefs, or nonsectarian spirituality movements, although I am quite impatient with public piety. I do hope to interrogate conventional wisdom about the virtues of religious belief and institutions with a discussion of their vices. I don't deny that organized religions offer people psychic comfort and community, as well as important social services, but I fiercely oppose their periodic assaults on secular government. I don't deny the benevolence of faith in God, when it nurtures courage, compassion, confidence, or simply the capacity to endure, any more than I can overlook the malevolence that erupts in religious wars. I would not wish to eradicate faith—the capacity to entertain ideals in spite of harsh realities. "We cannot live or think without some degree of faith," William James remarked. Sometimes "the part of wisdom clearly is to believe what one desires." I think this person is totally confused... More in need of Psycho-therapy than anything else... [Psychotherapy: The theory that the patient will probably get well anyhow, and is certainly a damned fool.] I would not worry about these ones.... Read a little Mencken and your worries will be gone after a couple of sentences. However... let me show you a couple more dangerous: tencommandments.org (under "introduction") <snip> A diligent study and remembrance of history will not truthfully enable the present or future generations to properly govern themselves. Nor will any development of any manmade wisdom or any so-called technology enable a people to achieve the same. Only the Creator of the heavens and the earth to whom all mankind are responsible can properly govern them; and He has graciously given them His most wise, noble, righteous and perfect moral Laws by which all people are responsible to perfectly conform in thought word and deed - in every detail of their lives. His righteous Laws are the only ones which have ever and will ever exist that can definitely work for the total good of every society. Any people who reject His most perfect and holy Laws, that is, the TEN COMMANDMENTS, do so to both their corporeal destruction and eternal damnation. Here lies the fundamental reason for all the ills that exist in America (or any society). Despite what blind patriots and Bill of Rights quoters think, America has failed to legislate itself in strict accord to the moral laws of God. In fact, the first amendment to its manmade constitution reveals that America has always been forbidden from doing so. If the government of America would officially embrace the true moral laws of God, it would be espousing a particular "religion". Therefore, the principles of the heathen Constitution and its Bill of Rights rule instead of morality. There is a constant clamour across the nation against morality on the basis of so-called constitutional rights. But this is the way the forefathers established this nation. Since its inception, America has truthfully been foolishly seeking to govern itself rather than seeking to perfectly conform to the righteous, rightful authority and holy kingship of the most high God. <snip> Say what ? These are the types one must keep a close tab on... and if they start making uproars about pushing their ideology... just make sure exposure is assured... Just like the Contract with America desperados, once people saw through their veil... they, in the majority, rejected them. Same thing with the Conservawackos like the above. Here is another: hom.net <snip> The House of Representatives supported the presence of the Ten Commandments in public schools. Critics say that the Ten Commandments are unconstitutional. Is it unconstitutional to place morality in schools? The answer to this question is yes. That's why I despise the devil's USA constitution. The USA constitution is America's worse plague. <snip> The Bible says, "You shall not murder" and also endorses the death-penalty. Is that a contradiction like many people say? Not at all. In fact, the two ideas when applied properly are an astonishing fulfillment of each other. You are wrong when you think God contradicts! <snip> What ?? The Devil's USA Constitution ? Mama mia !! Nothing like your firendly 21st. Century religious quasimodo and now... For something completely different... [but funny] A sample of mule blinders logic. A few reasons why the King James Bible IS the word of god: av1611.org <snip> Because No One Has Ever Proven That the KJV is Not God's Word <snip> Heeeee heeeee heeeeeee.... and finally... no-god.org

To: Lane3 who wrote (8092)	7/4/2000 5:10:45 AM
From: marcos	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 9127

Karen, i remember that thread, used to lurk it all the time, never posted but the odd time Cheeky Kid and i would discuss it elsewhere ... there were some real hoots over there, here's one of my favorites - "A hint for prep: buy a substantial amount of gravy for next year" Message 10954958 Too funny ... i mean what if you don't like gravy, lol ... it was a bit like talking to walls, wasn't it -g- The five Republican parties - yes isn't that always the way ... i'll likely vote Alliance here next time, they're having a leadership race right now, only one of the candidates do i really feel confident in, and he didn't have a chance, though he very likely will in the next race imho [he's young, ~35] ... i've never been able to vote without holding my nose on some aspect of the package ... here's Edmund Burke on 'revolutions make strange bedfellows' from his On the Conciliation of America - "When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle."