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To: CatLady who wrote (12649)	7/5/2000 7:54:36 PM
From: Carolyn	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 32871

It is understandable to think that. But, from some PMs I have received, the opposite appears to be true.

To: CatLady who wrote (12649)	7/5/2000 7:55:33 PM
From: Lizzie Tudor	Respond to of 32871

I wonder how many levels of management SI has now, since the acquisition. I've noticed a trend in a few (local) companies.. when the company is private there are maybe 2 levels of management. That would be the pres, vp engr and vp finance, and then, everybody else. Everybody is a "doer". This structure empowers the very senior engineers - they tend to take control and things really happen. Then, usually after IPO but in some Kleiner Perkins startups it happens before - they put in 4 levels of management for technical development. That is, president, vp engr, director engr, manager and finally developer. The problem of course is that the best development people remain technical and the director and manager level is just redundant overhead to them, so they leave. Then you have a bunch of junior developers, excess management and nobody to hold things together.