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To: FR1 who wrote (75485)	7/6/2000 2:13:08 PM
From: Uncle Frank	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 152472

>> I thought that QCOM had a patent on anything that uses CDMA technology. You are in good company. Dr. Irwin Jacobs, who many consider an authority, is of the same opinion. So are a number of qcom licensees, who you can be assured researched the extent of qcom's ipr carefully before signing up, including Ericsson, Samsung, Hitachi, etc. >> Are they claiming that WCDMA is a totally new technology and so different from CDMA that the patents do not apply? They (as in Nokia, Motorola, etc.) have not made that claim. Rather, they have proudly associated development of wcdma with the gsm camp, implying that wcdma just might not be based on qcom ipr. >> Is the battle plan to go to Euro courts who will say WCDMA is outside the CDMA patent because it is so different? I would think that qcom, as the injured party, would be the one to initiate any legal action, and since they are a US company trying to protect US issued patents, the courtroom would probably be in the US. >> If this is true, it would seem that there would be a major court case going on right now WCDMA people vs CDMA people. Since WCDMA products are not being sold, and haven't been demonstrated outside a lab (and even that's an allegation, not a fact), there is no basis for qcom to initiate a suit. So far, this is just a war of press releases. I'm not a lawyer or an engineer, so what I'm offering are my impressions and are not offered as factual. I'd suggest you poke around the various Q threads and come to your own conclusions. uf .

To: FR1 who wrote (75485)	7/6/2000 2:30:50 PM
From: Rick	Respond to of 152472

I asked a similar question on the G and K thread. This is the answer: "From: shamsaee Monday, Jul 3, 2000 5:50 AM ET Reply # of 27334 WCDMA is 3G solution which relies on underlying GSM technology with CDMA on top.It is not possible to achieve the requirements without utilizing CDMA technology and hence infringes on qcom IP.The difference to CDMA 2000 is that it has GSM core and hence some IP of ERIC,NOK,DOCOMO which they believe they can cross license with qcom and get better royalty rates. Qcom can play it 2 ways one to refuse any deal on royalties and ask for higher fees since they are behind on WCDMA Asics or leverage its position to get Europe to allocate specific auctioned spectrum for CDMA2000.At this point it does not make any business sense longterm to give any concessions as the old party line will stay intact.You have to remember GSM charges 15% royalties split between the GSM camp,This same camp is having a hard time swallowing the fact that now the shoe is on the other foot. The street has punished qcom due to it inability to win the PR/political war,its time those who have inflicted the damage receive some of the same treatment. I have said this before and will repeat it again,Qcom will have a massive lawsuit against WCDMA cam " - Fred

To: FR1 who wrote (75485)	7/6/2000 2:39:05 PM
From: Rajala	Read Replies (6) \| Respond to of 152472

>I thought that QCOM had a patent on anything that >uses CDMA technology. You have been led down the garden path, Franz. This is not true. CDMA is an old technology invented before Q was around. Q has been developing the technology and has several patents on different parts of the various applications of it. But they don´t have universal patent on CDMA. Another thing that I see people getting often wrong is the idea of CDMA being "the system". That is not true. CDMA is merely the general method how the bits fly in the air. System itself is a massively complex thing that uses CDMA only at the radio transmitting/receiving end. - rajala