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To: Rick who wrote (27352)	7/6/2000 8:16:37 PM
From: Uncle Frank	Respond to of 54805

>> What I don't understand is why anyone would think the Q will accept a lower percentage for the use of its IP in WCDMA than it would for CDMA. That's not the premise. Here's the game: If the gsm cabal can create a market for wcdma and if they can incorporate some gsm ipr into the standard, Qualcomm, who will want to participate in the large wcdma chipset market, will trade ipr for ipr. With no royalties due to qcom, the gsm gang, who have net zero royalties within their ranks, can maintain a large royalty barrier against outsiders, such as Kyocera, who would have to pay the standard outrageous gsm IP rental rates (15%?). The fact that cdma2000 is offered to all at a nominal royalty rate (5%?) threatens to level the playing field, which would put NOK, MOT, etc., at a competitive disadvantage. jmho, uf . uf

To: Rick who wrote (27352)	7/6/2000 8:17:03 PM
From: 100cfm	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 54805

What I don't understand is why anyone would think the Q will accept a lower percentage for the use of its IP in WCDMA than it would for CDMA. Fred I don't think thats the question on everyones mind or at least it very well shouldn't be since Dr J has been more then clear on that issue. What everyone wants to know is what it will cost Q for the GSM IP necessary for Q to make WCDMA asics. I wish instead of Putting money into the likes of Net Zero, they would buy a GSM IP firm and thus put an end to the Q will only get a small net royalty on WCDMA issue. 100