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To: Rajala who wrote (75619)	7/7/2000 10:58:08 AM
From: Jack Bridges	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 152472

You'll get plenty of macro published heat, so here is a bit of personal info at odds with your post. My wife is English and we are here every year for some months. Last week one of her brothers, who has been waiting for months to get an appointment to set up a hip operation, was told it will be another 18 months before the appointment will be set. Then yesterday a grand-nephew's scheduled heart valve operation was cancelled on one day's notice, with no indication of a new date. I have long been a supporter of National Health, but these things leave me gasping at the reality of socialistic 'success.' Jack

To: Rajala who wrote (75619)	7/7/2000 11:06:15 AM
From: waverider	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 152472

>>>But then, our women are more generous if you know what I mean.<<< Now we are sexist. What other personal characteristics are you going to reveal today?

To: Rajala who wrote (75619)	7/7/2000 11:52:26 AM
From: ehopper	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 152472

Hello Rajala, I am not one to brag about everything in America however having lived abroad in Europe and Canada your stats about medical care are misleading: True: There are 45 million Americans without Medical coverage and this is unacceptable. However in the UK and Canada I can tell you from experience the medical systems do not work. The wait for bypass surgery in Canda is two years, I watched my father lie in an old bed from 1960 waiting for two weeks to get a turn for radiation treatment only to get bumped back 3 weeks. As for an MRI forget about it. There are more MRI units in the city of Los Angeles then in Canada and the UK combined. When someone is sick you'll pay/do anything to help them. In Canada and the UK (and other parts of Eurpoe) you often do not have an option to go elsewhere. They simply do not allow the option for private hospitals. So when a loved one is in trouble what do people do in Canada? If they have money they fly them to the US and pay more than they would if they had private medical insurance (not allowed) OR if they have no money they stand in line and hope their loved one doesn't die. The rich live, the poor die - sound familiar? The staff in the hospitals are underpaid, overworked and a recent poll showed 35% of the Doctors are considering leaving for the US. A friend of mine recently lost her Aunt in the UK under similar appalling conditions. You can tell I get emotional about this but unless you have experienced the "wonderful" nightmare called universal medicare sitting in decaying hospitals 24 hrs you just do not know what it is like. I like the customer/client relationship, I am a customer that they must treat well of loose me to another hospital...you get that in a private hospital. Right now we are seen as a "liability" (I quote a collegue from the Canadian Cancer Society) and treated like it. Some combination of the two would work better. I apologize to the rest of this Thread for going off subject. ed