To: MikeM54321 who wrote (359 ) 7/8/2000 3:41:13 PM From: ftth Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 46821 Thanks for the fSONA link. I forgot about that one. Jolt and CableFree both claim P-MP from what I've seen. I'll try to locate some links later. Personally I don't see what the big deal is with P-MP or any flavor of multicast in these settings, nor do I see why this has become such a synonym for "better." It doesn't seem to me that any big technological breakthrough is necessary to multicast-enable these P-P networks for one, and there really isn't yet much use of multicast for another. I'm sure there are select business apps that need to simultaneously feed multiple geographically-dispersed sites, but I have a hard time believing that: A) this is a substantial part of their traffic and B) they don't already have this solved if they really need it. Frank, what's been your experience with percent of businesses that demand multicast, as well as what percent of their traffic is multicast? Any ball park figures from your experience? Are these typically high-rate, long duration streams? That would be the only scenario where it would be of great importance. Protocols for multicast already exist; it just a matter of installing them and having routers that understand them. Nothing needs to be invented. Besides, if your data needs to go outside your fiberless optical cloud, all multicast bets are off and the ability to support it within the cloud is a moot point. The support needs to be end-to-end, like so many other things. That end to end flow needs to be worked out before there is any reason to consider p-mp as a key product feature. Anyone that can shed some "light" on why P-MP is such a necessary function and is worthy of all the tout, please do. It can always be emulated as multiple unicasts, at the cost of bandwidth in certain portions of the route.