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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Father Terrence who wrote (23214)	7/9/2000 2:42:32 AM
From: greenspirit	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

Terry, res- so your arguments that murder rates will go up are unfounded speculation. Wow, it appears my argument is so complete you have leapt into the mode of making up positions of mine to argue against. A sign of a desperate man perhaps? :) Now Terry, you know very well I never said a thing about the "murder rates" one way or another. That's an issue which requires many avenues to be explored in order to define cause/effect relationships. What I did say was that "more innocent" people would be killed by the murdering thugs who would have otherwise been executed if we rescinded the death penalty. Do you deny the fact that killers have been let out on early parole and killed again? Of course you don't. And I am relatively certain the "truth" of that uncomfortable statement is something you will avoid in future posts. Here's a link to back up my claim.... prodeathpenalty.com The issue is not whether executions produce lower murder rates, but that executions produce fewer murders than if the death penalty did not exist. When you execute murderers you prevent them from murdering again and save innocent lives. "Of the roughly 52,000 state prison inmates serving time for murder in 1984, an estimated 810 had previously been convicted of murder and had killed 821 persons following their previous murder convictions. Executing each of these inmates would have saved 821 lives." (41, 1 Stanford Law Review, 11/88, pg. 153) Using a 75% murder clearance rate, it is most probable that the actual number of lives saved would have been 1026, or fifty times the number legally executed that year. This suggests that some 10,000 persons have been murdered, since 1971, by those who had previously committed additional murders (JFA). See B.5. prodeathpenalty.com And you have still not found one innocent person killed by the state. C'mon Terry, A=A remember?? :) Michael