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To: Father Terrence who wrote (24057)	7/12/2000 12:23:09 PM
From: Neocon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

No program that FDR forwarded was enacted without Congressional approval, and his Court packing scheme was thwarted. To call him a dictator is to render the term meaningless.......

To: Father Terrence who wrote (24057)	7/12/2000 4:48:46 PM
From: nihil	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

What a bunch of lies. You really need to provide citations for your ranting. Keynes never talked about a "mixed economy." No newsreel films have disappeared. Keynes never recanted. If anyone can correctly be termed the intellectual savior of capitalism (not to mention the UK), it is Keynes. You should read about Acheson's discussion with Keynes when they were planning the postwar economy (Acheson was chairman at Bretton Woods.) Keynes held out for provisions that would permit the restoring of world-wide freetade. See Acheson, Present at the Creation.

To: Father Terrence who wrote (24057)	7/12/2000 5:12:25 PM
From: Rock_nj	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

Do you consider "corporate welfare" a form a socialism? Such as: publicly financed stadiums, government research grants to private corporations (some of which make a lot of sense, but are welfare just the same), government not charging the full market value for mining/grazing rights on government land, governments giving grants to business to make improvements to their infrastructure (this happens a lot with railroads these days). If you consider these examples of "corporate welfare" to be socialism (I certainly do, the money is being distributed by a central public authority, aka government), then you must conclude that the biggest proponents of socialism in America today are the same corporations who benefit so dearly from being on the "corporate welfare" government dole. I'm not saying that "corporate welfare/socialism" is all bad, but we need to call it what it is. No President has come close to creating for the average Joe the "corporate welfare/socialism" that exists today, and will continue to exist as long as corporations are around to benefit from it. BTW, FDR was elected 4 times in a free and fair election. He was hardly a dictator.