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To: Gus who wrote (27474)7/12/2000 5:26:58 PM
From: Logain Ablar  Respond to of 29386
 
Thread:

AMCC news below. Check out their revenue, earnings & stock price.

Message 14035703

Makes you wonder with ANCR reporting on Tuesday and QLGC Wednesday what can happen.

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To: Gus who wrote (27474)7/12/2000 5:28:37 PM
From: Gus  Respond to of 29386
 
SAN Backbone Device Quality of Connection

With the SAN Quality of Connection classification
matrix defined, it becomes a straightforward task
to classify types of interconnect devices according
totheir QoC potential as SAN backbone devices.
Table 5 presents this classification matrix as
defined by Strategic Research Corporation in the
Strategic Profile referenced earlier. QoC class
and architecture descriptions in this matrix match
those in Table 4.

Since QoC Classes 2 and 3 rely on the redundancy
of paths and interconnect devices to achieve their
respective availability-of-connection targets,
fault-tolerant features in backbone devices are
not required for these classes. However, adding
fault-tolerant features such as redundant,
hot-swappable power and cooling will certainly
improve quality of service by increasing
connection availability and reducing
performance degradation. A single Director may
be used in lieu of redundant fabric switches to
achieve Class 3 service levels.

In order to reach Class 4 QoC, backbone devices
must be consistently upgradable and repairable
or replaceable within the 53-minute availability-
of-connection window guaranteed by Class 4. They
must also meet the Class 4 performance
degradation guarantee of 500 annual path-minutes
maximum. These guarantees are nearly impossible
to meet unless backbone devices are designed for
continuous operation. Redundant Directors achieve
this QoC class today, and future fabric switches
with enhanced designs may be able to achieve it
as well.

Class 5 QoC backbone devices must clearly be
capable of delivering continuous operation by
protecting all critical components with
redundancy, automatic failover, and hot
replacement. Port cards must have minimal
granularity and be hot-swappable to meet the
performance degradation specification.
In addition, code must be upgradable while the
device is in full operation. Only under these
conditions can a backbone device meet the
stringent availability and performance criteria
of Class 5 QoC. Currently, a Director is the
only interconnect device offering these
features.


Designing a SAN

As a rule, SANs should always be designed with
the application in mind. Specific service goals
should be set by the application's requirements
for availability, performance, and scalability,
rather than dictating one service level for the
entire infrastructure. If not, excessive costs
will likely be incurred for applications that
don't require the same class of service needed
by critical applications. Conversely,
undercapitalizing the SAN infrastructure will
lead to poor application service. Using SAN QoC
by application ensures the lowest cost and
greatest probability of success.

Once the requirements of the application are
determined, the QoC classification matrix shown
in Table 4 or 5 specifies the SAN architecture
required to achieve that quality of service. For
example, if an application needs Class 5 QoC, a
SAN employing redundant Directors and redundant
paths with path failover is required. No other
architecture meets this need.


Table 5 – SAN Backbone Device Quality of Connection
Source: Strategic Research Corporation

QoC Class
Architecture Description
Minimum Device Capability
Current Device Implementation

QoC Class 1

Architecture Description:

Failure sensitive
- no redundancy

Miminum Device Capability:

No critical components are redundant with automatic
failover

Current Device Implementation:

Single Hub

QoC Class 2

Architectural Description:

Failure resilient
- partially redundant paths
- partially redundant interconnects

Minimum Device Capability:

No critical components are redundant with automatic
failover

Current Device Implementation:

Redundant switched hubs, EPL switches or fabric switches

QoC Class 3

Architectural Description:

Failure resilient
- fully redundant paths
- fully redundant or fault tolerant interconnects

Minimum Device Capability:

If redundant interconnects, no critical
components are redundant with automatic
failover; otherwise, fault tolerant features
are required

Current Device Implementation:

Redundant fabric switches or single Director

QoC Class 4

Architectural Description:

Failure tolerant
- fully redundant paths
- fully redundant interconnects
- backbone interconnects fault tolerant

Minimum Device Capability:

All critical components are redundant with automatic failover

Current Device Implementation:

Redundant Directors

QoC Class 5

Architectural Description:

Fault tolerant
- fully redundant paths
- fully redundant interconnects
- all interconnects fault tolerant

Minimum Device Capability:

All critical components are redundant with automatic failover

Current Device Implementation:

Redundant Directors

mcdata.com



To: Gus who wrote (27474)7/12/2000 9:19:18 PM
From: J Fieb  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 29386
 
Gus, I think that class of service for the director is referring to a subject near and dear to all the hearts of ANCR holders, that is old history now. These are the FC definitions. No one needs Class 1, but Iband suggests that ANCRs past class 1 pioneering was valuable after all? All the SAN FC biz is class 2/3

Class 1

CONTEXT [Fibre Channel]

A connection-oriented class of communication service in which the entire bandwidth of the link between two ports is dedicated for communication between the ports and not used for other purposes. Also known as dedicated connection service. Class 1 service is not widely implemented. cf. intermix

Class 2

CONTEXT [Fibre Channel]

A connectionless Fibre Channel communication service which multiplexes frames from one or more N_Ports or NL_Ports. Class 2 frames are explicitly acknowledged by the receiver, and notification of delivery failure is provided. This class of service includes end to end flow control.

Class 3

CONTEXT [Fibre Channel]

A connectionless Fibre Channel communication service which multiplexes frames to or from one or more N_Ports or NL_Ports. Class 3 frames are datagrams, that is they are not explicitly acknowledged, and delivery is on a "best effort" basis.

Class 4

CONTEXT [Fibre Channel]

A connection-oriented class of communication service in which a fraction of the bandwidth of the link between two ports is dedicated for communication between the ports. The remaining bandwidth may be used for other purposes. Class 4 service supports bounds on the maximum time to deliver a frame from sender to receiver. Also known as fractional service. Class 4 service is not widely implemented.

Class 6

CONTEXT [Fibre Channel]

A connection-oriented class of communication service between two Fibre Channel ports that provides dedicated unidirectional connections for reliable multicast. Also known as uni-directional dedicated connection service. Class 6 service is not widely implemented.

class of service

CONTEXT [Networking] [Fibre Channel]

A mechanism for managing traffic in a network by specifying message or packet priority.
The characteristics and guarantees of the transport layer of a Fibre Channel circuit. Fibre Channel classes of service include: connection services (Classes 1), guaranteed frame delivery with end to end flow control (Class 2), packetized frame datagrams (Class 3), quality of service sub-channels (e.g., constant sub rate or constant latency) (Class 4). Different classes of service may simultaneously exist in a fabric. The form and reliability of delivery in Class 3 circuits may vary with the topology. Different classes of service may simultaneously exist in a fabric.
The identification and grouping of data packets based on a priority label (in the packet header) or via other mechanisms (such as "per hop behavior", defined by the IETF's Differentiated Services).

Notice that HWP qualified the HA ANCR products that have

The SANbox-16HA includes all the features of Ancor's standard 16-port switch, plus optional dual redundant power supplies.

The data center will want components that have lots of redundancy.
I watched the SUNW webcast on the T3. In our town we have a few streets in the historic part of town made of brick.
SUNW concept is similar in that they rolled out one of the little bricks and then at the end they showed a giant wall built of the same unit. I think they will sell them.

I don't agree with the storage arguments on SI that say So and so can't sell against company x. The market data suggests that both SUNW and EMC could take market share from lots of others, double their sales to current customers, thus growing for some years without coming face to face in the arena. The incumbents tend to remain in office a long time. Everyone supports switched fabric now except for IBM and it looks like they will limp out of the gate next month.