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To: epicure who wrote (83729)	7/13/2000 12:14:57 AM
From: The Philosopher	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

As far as I know no theologian has suggested any experiments that would demonstrate the probable existence of God. Experiments, no. But Aquinas among many others posited proofs of the existence of God. Very logical proofs, whether or not you agree with him. Might as well have experiments that prove love. An interesting statement. Would you say that if you can't devise a scientific experiment that proves that love exists, therefore it doesn't exist? (Or maybe it does or doesn't, but you can't prove it, so you can't know?) Personally, I know love exists because I experience it. And I know God exists because I have experienced him/her/it. A different kind of proof/knowledge from scientific proof/knowledge. But, IMO, no less legitimate. Theological proofs don't exist. Now that's plain silly. Sure they do. Go back to Aquinas. Just like mathematics, you have postulates that you can't prove but accept, from which you develop proofs of various propositions through the application of logical rules. As with mathematics, you have to start somewhere, with some first principles you can't prove but have to accept. As there are different proofs based on which definitions and postulates you start by accepting as true (cf. Euclidian vs. Riemann geometry), so there are different religions that start by accepting different basic principles as true and build proofs on them.