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Politics : About that Cuban boy, Elian -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: greenspirit who wrote (8482)	7/13/2000 7:30:52 PM
From: Dayuhan	Respond to of 9127

No, the INS is not entitled to detonate a nuclear bomb in pursuit of an illegal alien. It is entitled to grant and to revoke parole, to order the turnover of an illegal alien, and to enforce that order. You may feel that a supplemental court order would have been desirable, but it is in no way legally necessary. The emotional belief that the CANF would do anything, including grossly illegal actions, to keep custody of Elian is an assumption based primarily on media propaganda. It is based on public statements by Cuban-American leaders, in which they proclaimed their intention to retain Elian no matter what the government did. Protesting is not illegal. Preventing the INS from taking custody of an illegal alien is. A lot of people were expecting that the situation would end up with a ring of protestors around the house, and government agents faced with the choice between backing down and forcing their way in. This could have gone on for days, which the CANF would have loved, though it would hardly have been beneficial to Elian. To the extent that the timing of the raid preempted such actions, it was well timed.

To: greenspirit who wrote (8482)	7/13/2000 9:19:51 PM
From: Rambi	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 9127

If a mistake was made, (regarding parental fitness) it was made by the INS in their initial decision. Michael-- I just noticed this statement of yours and have to ask- Are you sure the initial granting of temporary custody was based on "parental fitness"? I have never seen that alleged. There was no parent available to take custody and TEMPORARY placement with the MIami Cubans was a logical step for the INS to take, one that was in the best interests of Elian at the time, You seem to forget that this was a temporary placement- of the type that is often made until facts can be sorted. I don't think I have EVER read that this was done on the basis of Juan's lack of fitness! At the time, the facts surrounding Elian were still very vague and unverified. As for court order to transfer custody-- custody had been terminated. There was none to transfer. Elian was an illegal alien under INS jurisdiction, family court no longer had jurisdiction. THe relatives were holding Elian illegally by that point.