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Pastimes : Golf! A thread for the hopelessly addicted! -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: TH who wrote (1736)	7/13/2000 10:00:46 PM
From: KFE	Respond to of 44012

A little golf humor. A. One beautiful Saturday morning, as their usual foursome rounded onto the 16th green, a funeral procession quietly passed by. Joe, an avid hacker, was putting when he suddenly stopped. He stood somewhat "at attention", took off his hat, and held it on his heart. The other three golfers were awed by Joe's display of thoughtfulness. When the funeral procession completely passed, they said, "Wow Joe, we didn't know you were such a compassionate person". To which he replied: "You know guys, after 34 years of marriage, that's the least I could do". B. A couple met during their vacation stays at Seabrook Island, South Carolina and were immediately attracted to each other. The week went by rapidly and it was clear that they had either fallen in love or were well on the way to doing so. On the last day, they were discussing how they would continue the relationship when they returned home. "Its only fair to warn you Jody," he said. "I'm a golf nut. I live, eat, sleep and breathe golf." "Well, since you're being honest, so will I" Jody said. "I'm a hooker." "I see ," he said. Then brightening, he smiled. "It's probably because you're not keeping your wrists straight when you hit the ball." C.Top 10 things that sound dirty in golf but aren't: 10. Nuts! ...my shaft is bent 9. After 18 holes I can barely walk 8. You really whacked the hell out of that sucker 7. Look at the size of that putter 6. Keep your head down and spread your legs a bit more 5. Mind if I join your threesome? 4. Stand with your back turned and drop it 3. My hands are so sweaty I can't get a good grip 2. Nice stroke, but your follow through leaves a lot to be desired And the number one thing that sounds dirty in golf but isn't: 1. Hold up...I need to wash my balls first! Very generous offers Magnatizer and Thurston. Regards, Ken

To: TH who wrote (1736)	7/14/2000 12:29:29 AM
From: TH	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 44012

Thread, Interested in opinions on this subject of the value of pros. I have thought a good deal about this topic as I have recently struggled with instruction from my pro. Now I know it is human nature to find an external source for blame when you play poorly, but I assure you this is not my path. The only time I will blame someone else is if they display bad form when it is my turn to hit. If you stand within 10 feet of me to the rear you might as well add a stroke to my score now. I digress. I think the pro serves a function and has value, but I have come to the potential conclusion that you must be responsible for what you accept or reject from the pro. Here is an example. Recently I saw my pro and had a list of specific things I wanted to work on. In my opinion we had moved well beyond swing fundamentals and I wanted to spend no time in this area. He didn't agree. I explained to him that I was hitting the ball better than I had in maybe three or four years and was really happy with the work we had done to get to this point. He didn't think we were done and started moving me into what he considers the correct or true form. I couldn't hit a ball for a week. Then I found myself practicing this "correct" form and before I knew it I didn't know how to get my swing back. Then one day I was watching golf and I focused on how very different players at the pro level swung the club. Look at Begay and the arm rotation move he makes with the long clubs. Look at Lehman and the half finish he hits and the very controlled and somewhat short backswing. Look at Els or Couples and the grace with which they move the club thru its full range, and effortless. Look at Pavin and how he extends the club and his arc to get the maximum distance possible for his build. The point is, at least as I see it, is that there is no such thing as a true form. If I want to bring the club inside and return it inside, so what? If it works is this bad? What if I try to bring the club back on the line and extend my arc to the point where I lose the feeling of the clubhead and this results in a loss of considerable power and produces shanks (something I have never had a problem with before). My question for debate is really this, and I will use myself as an example, but it could apply to anyone. Should I keep working and fighting to make my swing look like Faldo's or should I stand a little more upright and swing inside, with a much lower and shorter arc? Keep in mind that this non-conventional swing is quite powerful and much more accurate (for me) than the more bent over but fully extended swing. I have been experimenting. I have used my swing for four of my last eight rounds. All four where in the low 40 for 9 holes. Using the classic swing or true form swing I produced a 45, a 47 and...ugh a 52 and a 51. I am at a loss. Is it that I will somehow limit my potential to go lower if I stick with my own swing, or is it better to have confidence and results? Tough question, but I really have to get to an answer as I think the method the pro wants me to use could be damaging. Trevino got by. I just don't know. Thanks. TH