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To: Jeffrey S. Mitchell who wrote (454)7/15/2000 9:15:12 AM
From: dantecristo  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 12465
 
For the first time ever, the public has access to the latest (the 4th) complaint that the Varian (VAR & VSEA), Susan B. Felch & George Zdasiuk Plaintiffs have submitted to the Courts (not yet ruled upon by the presiding Judge Rushing):

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Third Amended and Supplemental Complaint for Damages and Injunctive Relief

"Plaintiffs Varian Medical Systems, Inc. ('Varian Medical'), Varian Semiconductor Equipment Associates, Inc. ('Varian Semiconductor'), on behalf of themselves, their employees, and the general public, Susan B. Felch, and George Zdasiuk (collectively, 'Plaintiffs'), hereby complain and allege against defendants Michelangelo Delfino, Mary E. Day, and Does 2 through 20 (collectively, 'defendants') as follows:
NATURE OF ACTION
1. This is an action for preliminary and permanent injunctive relief and damages arising out of defendants' improper and unlawful actions in violation of the California state laws pertaining to false advertising, unfair competition, libel, invasion of privacy, breach of contract, and conspiracy, as well as Cal. Bus. & Prof. Code §§ 17200 et seq., Cal. Bus. & Prof. Code §§ 17500 et seq.
JURISDICTION AND VENUE
2. This Court has jurisdiction over this entire action by virtue of the fact that this is a civil action wherein the matter in controversy, exclusive of interest, exceeds $25,000. Venue is properly laid in this county pursuant to California Code of Civil Procedure § 395.
3. Defendant Michelangelo Delfino removed this case to federal court by filing a Notice of Removal on March 25, 1999. This Court regained jurisdiction when the federal court entered an order remanding the case to this Court and mailed a certified copy of the remand order to this Court.
THE PARTIES
4. Varian Associates, Inc. ('Varian Associates') was one of the original plaintiffs in this action. Varian Associates was a corporation duly organized and existing under the laws of the State of Delaware, having its principal place of business in Santa Clara County, at Palo Alto, California. At all times herein mentioned, Varian Associates enjoyed a good reputation both generally and in its business and in relation to its goods and services. On April 2, 1999, Varian Associates completed its reorganization into three independent, public companies: Varian Medical, Varian Semiconductor, and Varian, Inc. These companies are the successors-in-interest to Varian Associates.
5. Varian Medical is a corporation duly organized and existing under the laws of the State of Delaware, having its principal place of business in Santa Clara County, at Palo Alto, California. Varian Medical is a U.S. -based manufacturer of a variety of medical products. Varian Medical has always enjoyed a good reputation both generally and in its business and in relation to its goods and services.
6. Varian Semiconductor is a corporation duly organized and existing under the laws of the State of Delaware, having its principal place of business in Essex County, at Gloucester, Massachusetts. Varian Semiconductor is a U.S. -based manufacturer of ion implantation systems that perform a key step in the semiconductor chip manufacturing process. Varian Semiconductor has always enjoyed a good reputation both generally and in its business and in relation to its goods and services.
7. Susan B. Felch is an individual who resides in Santa Clara County, California. She was employed continuously by Varian since 1985.
8. George Zdasiuk is an individual who resides in San Mateo County, California. He has been employed continuously by Varian since 1980.
9. Plaintiffs are informed and believe, and on that basis allege, that defendant Michelangelo Delfino is a California resident who resides in Santa Clara County, California.
10. Plaintiffs are informed and believe, and on that basis allege, that defendant Mary E. Day is a California resident who resides in Santa Clara County, California. Day was formerly named as 'Doe 1' in this action.
11. Plaintiffs are ignorant of the true names and capacities of the defendants sued herein as Does 2 through 20, and for that reason have sued them by their fictitious names. On information and belief, Plaintiffs allege that each of these fictitiously named defendants is responsible in some manner for some or all of the acts alleged herein, and that Plaintiffs' damages as herein alleged were proximately caused by such defendants. Plaintiffs will amend this Complaint to set forth the true names and capacities of the fictitiously-named defendants once Plaintiffs have ascertained that information.
12. Defendants at all times herein mentioned were the agents of their codefendants and in doing the things hereinafter alleged were acting within the course and scope of such agency and with the permission and consent of their codefendants.
DELFINO'S PATTERN OF HARASSING CONDUCT AS AN EMPLOYEE OF VARIAN ASSOCIATES
13. Delfino was hired by Varian Associates on April 25, 1988 as a Senior Engineer.
14. Beginning in approximately 1994-1995, a Varian Associates employee named Jim Fair was the target of a pattern of harassment, including the posting of inappropriate graffiti on bulletin boards, the changing of the names of Mr. Fair's computer files on the Lab computer to suggest that Mr. Fair was homosexual (e.g., changing 'Fair' to 'Fairy' so that the file names were altered to 'Jim is a Fairy,' 'Jim was a Fairy,' 'Jim the Fairy,' etc.), and the alteration of a letter written by Mr. Fair and subsequent distribution of the revised letter. The letter was altered to include derogatory comments about Mr. Fair, derogatory comment about his family, negative comments about the work program in which Mr. Fair was involved, suggestions of improper use of government funding, and comments implying Mr. Fair was homosexual. Varian Medical and Varian Semiconductor are informed and believe, and thereon allege, that Delfino was responsible for the pattern of harassment of Mr. Fair. Upon being asked about his involvement in the harassment by Ron Powell, Delfino's supervisor at the time, Delfino accused Mr. Fair and Mr. Powell of being 'seriously nuts,' or words to that effect, and was insulting, hostile and insubordinate. Delfino then complained that he was being harassed as a result of being questioned about the pattern of harassment directed at Mr. Fair.
15. Delfino was transferred in 1995 to a position in which his new supervisor was George Zdasiuk.
16. On or about January 23, 1995, Susan Felch was promoted. After that time, her relationship with Delfino changed. Following her promotion, Delfino stopped speaking to Felch generally. When she passed him in the hall and greeted him, he would respond with cold silence.
17. After Felch was promoted, she became the target of a pattern of harassment by Delfino, including:

a. The posting at work of a notice published in the local newspaper regarding the purchase by Felch of a house in Los Altos. Someone took the sale notice from the paper and posted it on a bulletin board so that it was visible to all passing employees. Felch was distressed that someone had posted a document that listed not only the price of her house, but also her home address. Approximately one year later, near the anniversary of that date, someone left another copy of the notice near a copier in Felch's work area.
b. After Felch's promotion, Delfino also began treating her in a very different and non-professional manner, and subjected her to a variety of forms of harassment. That harassment included making odd and bizarre faces at Felch from outside the windows in her office as she sat attempting to work, and making a gesture, the 'phone hand gesture,' at Felch through the office window when Felch was speaking on the phone. When making this gesture, Delfino would hold his hand up to his head, as if he were holding a telephone, and make an unflattering face in what appeared to be an attempt to mimic Felch talking on the telephone.
c. Delfino began to use obscenities around Felch while engaging in hostile behavior. For example, on or about June 4, 1997, Felch approached a set of double doors in a Varian Associates building. Delfino and another employee were standing at the double doors. As Felch came to the doors, the other employee who had been talking with Delfino held the door open for Felch to pass and said to Delfino, 'Open the door for her,' or words to that effect. Delfino responded with words to the effect of 'Not on my fucking deathbed.' Felch reported this incident to Jane Crisler of Varian Human Resources, and also spoke to George Zdasiuk, who was Delfino's supervisor.
d. On another occasion, in August of 1997, Felch greeted Varian Associates employees who were walking nearby, including Delfino. Following her greeting, Delfino turned away from the group of people and faced the wall and said loudly words to the effect of 'Were we having a technical conversation? Yes, we were having a fucking conversation and we were fucking interrupted.' Delfino then continued to make several similar comments. Felch reported this act to Jane Crisler of Varian Human Resources.
e. In December of 1997, Felch learned that Delfino had asked to move to an office which was next door to Felch's. In light of the hostile actions he had taken toward Felch, Felch asked that he not be permitted to move to that office Delfino was not permitted to move to that office.
f. Following the denial of his request to move to an office next to Felch's office, Delfino's harassment of Felch escalated. Delfino continued to make hand gestures mimicking and satirizing Felch while she was in her office using the telephone. Although Felch initially attempted to ignore the faces and gestures that Delfino made, they distracted and disrupted her telephone conversations, including those with important customers.
18. Delfino's pattern of harassment of Felch continued into May 1998. Felch notified Jane Crisler of Varian Human Resources about the problem, seeking to have her encourage Delfino to stop harassing Felch. Although Delfino had been warned several times to stop harassing Felch, his harassment of her continued. Felch began to be worried about her safety.
19. In September 1998, Felch notified Jane Crisler that Delfino had, despite earlier warnings, continued to make gestures at her.
20. As a result of his continued pattern of harassment of several Varian Associates employees, Varian terminated Delfino's employment on October 8, 1998.
DAY'S EMPLOYMENT WITH VARIAN AND RELATIONSHIP WITH DELFINO
21. Day was hired by Varian Associates in or about April of 1983 and worked there as a Senior Engineer. She worked closely with Delfino at Varian Associates and quit shortly after Delfino was terminated from his employment at Varian Associates, on or about December 21, 1998.
22. While at Varian Associates, Day shared Delfino's animosity toward Felch, Zdasiuk, and others at Varian Associates.
23. Day lives two doors away from Delfino in the same condominium complex. Day and Delfino socialized regularly during their employment at Varian Associates and have continued to do so since leaving Varian Associates. On information and belief, Day and Delfino are involved in an ongoing sexual relationship with each other.
24. Since leaving Varian Associates, Day and Delfino have been running a company called MoBeta. Day and Delfino are the sole officers and employees of MoBeta. On information and belief, MoBeta is the alter ego of Day and Delfino.
DEFENDANT'S WRONGFUL CONDUCT ON THE INTERNET
25. Plaintiffs are informed and believe, and on that basis allege, that commencing immediately after Delfino's termination from Varian Associates, defendants began a pattern of unlawful conduct described below and which is the subject of this Complaint.
26. Plaintiffs are informed and believe, and on that basis allege, that defendants have committed a variety of wrongful conduct. This conduct, includes but is not limited to, the actions by defendants in impersonating various Varian employees, including but not limited to, Susan Felch, George Zdasiuk, Dick Aurelio, Jane Crisler, and others, and posting on various Internet web pages emails allegedly from the impersonated Varian employeees, which contain false and defamatory statements. In addition, defendants have defamed both Varian Associates and its employees through a variety of false allegations, including by contentions that employees 'cause some trouble,' that nobody at Varian Associates 'is working,' that Varian employees are having affairs with other employees and executives, that Varian employees are engaged in projects that waste money, and that Varian Associates has engaged in actions including, but not limited to 'corporate rape.'
27. Defendants have published on the Internet numerous emails regarding Susan Felch. In many cases, defendants have impersonated Felch by posting emails that appear to be authored by Felch but were in fact authored by defendants. In addition to the wrongful appropriation of Felch's name, the contents of the emails are defamatory and invade Felch's privacy in several different ways. The emails that falsely show Felch as the author contain the following statements, among others:

28. In addition to the emails in which defendants impersonate Felch, defendants have also published on the Internet numerous additional emails in which defendants have defamed Felch and invaded her privacy. In these additional wrongful emails, defendants have either (a) impersonated other Varian employees by giving the emails the appearance of having been authored by such other Varian employees, or (b) posted the emails under aliases (such as 'go_get_help,' 'ah_michelangelo,' and 'aronaldo') such that the true authors of the emails cannot be determined without obtaining information from the operators of the Internet web site pursuant to subpoena. Examples of statements in these additional emails are:

29. Defendants have published on the Internet numerous messages regarding George Zdasiuk. Defendants have impersonated Zdasiuk by posting messages which appear to be authored by Zdasiuk but which are in fact authored by defendants. In addition to the wrongful appropriation of Zdasiuk's name, the contents of the messages are defamatory of Zdasiuk and invade Zdasiuk's privacy in several ways. Examples of messages that falsely show Zdasiuk as the author are:

30. In addition to the emails in which defendants impersonate Zdasiuk, defendants have also published on the Internet numerous additional emails in which defendants have defamed Zdasiuk and invaded his privacy. In these additional wrongful emails, defendants have either (a) impersonated other Varian employees by giving the emails the appearance of having been authored by such other Varian employees, or (b) posted thev emails under aliase (such as 'ah_michelangelo,' 'go_get_help,' and 'manuforte') Examples of statements in these additional emails include:

31. Defendants have published on the Internet numerous emails in which defendants have defamed Varian Associates and engaged in unfair competition. Defendants' emails regarding Varian Associates are part of a scheme to harm Varian Associates and its successors-in-interest, including Varian Medical and Varian Semiconductor, by falsely portraying Varian Associates as poorly managed, having employees with no work to do because the company's business is deteriorating, having overpriced stock, and having quality problems with its products. Defendants have furthered this scheme by posting on the Internet a slew of emails which are not only defamatory and unfair, but in which defendants impersonate Varian managers and employees so as to give the impression that the defamatory and unfair representations are based on knowledge of highly-placed Varian employees and that these extremely negative views are widely held throughout Varian. Defendants have also furthered this scheme by posting on the Internet numerous emails authored by aliases such as 'manuforte,' 'aronaldo,' 'go_get_help,' 'gino_in_torino,' 'dick_et_al,' 'halperthal,' 'jane_crisco,' and 'ah_michelangelo,' and having these aliases respond to each other on the Internet, thereby creating the impression that there is a multitude of people who have inside information about Varian which reflects badly on Varian's business and which could drive down Varian's stock price. In addition to defaming Varian Associates and being unfair, this scheme is likely to deceive consumers, stockholders, and potential consumers and stockholders regarding Varian Associates and its successors-in-interest, including Varian Medical and Varian semiconductor, as well as their products and their stock.
32. In addition to the messages discussed above regarding Felch and Zdasiuk - which also reflect poorly on Varian Associates and its successors-in-interest, including Varian Medical and Varian Semiconductor -- examples of the messages that defendants have published on the Internet regarding Varian Associates include:

33. Many of the messages described above were posted on the Yahoo! Inc. message board for Varian Associates, Inc. To post a message on this board, a user must sign up for 'Yahoo! Chat,' which entails agreeing to the terms of a service agreement. Plaintiffs allege, on information and belief, that defendants read the service agreement and agreed to its terms before posting any messages on the Yahoo! message board for Varian Associates, Inc. The terms of the service agreement include, but are not limited to, the following:

a. "Yahoo Chat currently is provided as a free service to users who agree to abide by the terms and conditions of this Agreement."
b. "ENTERING A CHAT ROOM OF YAHOO CHAT WILL CONSTITUTE ACCEPTANCE OF THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF THIS AGREEMENT. IF YOU DO NOT AGREE TO ABIDE BY THESE TERMS, PLEASE DO NOT ENTER YAHOO CHAT."
c. You agree not to do any of the following actions while using Yahoo Chat:
(1) harass, threaten, embarass or cause distress or discomfort upon another Yahoo Chat participant, user, or other individual or entity;
(2) transmit via Yahoo Chat any information, data, text, files, links, software, chat, communication or other materials ('Content') that Yahoo considers to be unlawful, harmful, threatening, abusive, harassing, defamatory, vulgar, obscene, hateful, racially, ethnically or otherwise objectionable;
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(4) impersonate in Yahoo Chat any person, including but not limited to, a Yahho official, forum leader, guide or host;
....
(7)intentionally or unintentionally violate any applicable local, state, national or international law, including but not limited to any regulations having the force of law while using or accessing Yahoo Chat or in connection with your use of Yahoo Chat in any manner.
34. One of defendants' objectives in posting the messages has been to drive down the stock price of Varian Associates, Varian Medical, and Varian Semiconductor. This is evidenced by the fact that defendants have posted all of the messages on stock-related Internet sites, and defendants have specifically stated in several of the messages that Varian Associates' stock is extremely overvalued and that readers should sell their Varian Associates stock.
35. Another of defendants' objectives has been to cause personal distress to the Varian managers who were directly responsible for the termination of Delfino's employment with Varian, including but not limited to Felch and Zdasiuk.
36. Defendants' intent in making such allegations is to defame and harm Plaintiffs and various Varian employees, as well as to harm the price of Varian securities. Furthermore, by appropriating the identity of various Varian employees including Felch, and posting messages attributed to persons other than the sender, defendants have wrongly appropriated the identities of individuals.
37. Plaintiffs have been damaged by defendants' wrongful conduct, as described above. Plaintiffs' injury will be much greater -- irreparable -- if defendants are permitted to continue their wrongful conduct.
DEFENDANTS' CONTINUED UNLAWFUL CONDUCT AFTER THE FILING OF THIS LAWSUIT AND THE ISSUANCE OF A TRO
38. Plaintiffs initially filed this lawsuit in the Superior Court for the County of santa Clara on February 26, 1999. On that date, the Superior Court issued a Temporary Restraining Order ('TRO') prohibiting Delfino from, inter alia, impersonating other persons on the Internet, using more than one alias to post Internet messages relating to Plaintiffs, defaming Plaintiffs in Internet messages, and disposing of his computer equipment.
39. On February 25, 1999, one day prior to filing the complaint, Plaintiffs notified Delfino by telephone and hand-delivered letter that they intended to file a complaint and seek the TRO the following day. The notice described the nature of the complaint and the requested relief.
40. On or about February 25 or 26, 1999, after Delfino was received the notice described in the previous paragraph, Day disposed of her used Apple Performa. On information and belief, Day disposed of her used Apple Performa with knowledge of the complaint and the TRO application in this case and with the intent to destroy evidence showing Day's and Delfino's responsibility for the Internet messages at issue in this lawsuit.
41. By reason of subsequent orders entered by the Santa Clara County Superior Court and this Court, the TRO remained in effect continuously until the Court issued a preliminary injunction on June 21, 1999.
42. Following the issuance of the TRO, defendants have posted at least eight messages on the internet under several aliases in which defendants continue to defame, harass, and impersonate Plaintiffs and related persons in direct violation of the TRO. These messages include the following:

DEFENDANTS' CONTINUED DEFAMATORY POSTINGS AFTER THE FILING OF THIS SECOND AMENDED COMPLAINT
43. Following the filing of the Second Amended complaint in this action, defendants have posted, by their own admission, more than one thousand messages relating to this action. In many of these messages the defendants continue to defame and harass Plaintiffs, Plaintiffs' counsel, and other persons whose names have arisen as potential witnesses against defendants, including but not limited to Joseph Phair, Jim Fair, Ron Powell, Jane Crisler, Craig Moro, Jeff Wright, Kathy Hibbs, Dick Levy, Dick Aurelio, and others. In these messages, defendants have defamed Plaintiffs in new ways, such as by insinuating (i) that George Zdasiuk is homophobic; (ii) that Plaintiffs have videotaped persons in company bathrooms, going to the bathroom, using the bathroom, or engaging in private activities in the bathroom, or have otherwise invaded the privacy of persons in the bathroom, (iii) the Plaintiffs are bullies, fasicsts, tyrants, or seek to oppress free speech, or that this is a SLAPP lawsuit, (iv) that Plaintiffs destroyed or tampered with evidence, (v) that Susan Felch sabotaged a laboratory, (vi) that Susan Felch is 'scary' or has violent tendencies, and (vii) that George Zdasiuk would not have hired a woman employee if he had known she was pregnant. These messages, which the defendants admit posting, include the following:

PRAYER FOR RELIEF
WHEREFORE, Plaintiffs pray that the Court:
1. Enter judgment in favor of all Plaintiffs and against all defendants, jointly and severally, on all claims for relief.
2. Preliminarily and permanently enjoin defendants and their agents, servants, and employees, and all persons acting under, in concert with, or for them, directly or indirectly as follows:

a.Refrain from posting on, or e-mailing to, any Internet message board, chat room, stock page or other Internet posting pate or location (including but not limited to any Yahoo! or Stock-Talk page), any emails or electronic messages of any kind that refer, directly or indirectly, to Susan Felch, Kevin Felch, George Zdasiuk, Julie Fouquet, Jim Fair, Ron Powell, Jane Crisler, Craig Moro, Kathy Hibbs, Joseph Phair or any trial witness or attorney in this action.
b.Refrain from posting on, or e-mailing to, any Internet message board, chat room, stock page or other Internet posting pate or location (including but not limited to any Yahoo! or Stock-Talk page), any emails or electronic messages of any kind that defame or present false information about Varian Medical, Varian Semiconductor, Varian Associates, or any of their employees, agents, or attorneys, including, but not limited to, Susan Felch, George Zdasiuk, Richard, Levy, Richard Aurelio, Joseph Phair, and Kathy Hibbs, and/or their families, including, but not limited to, statements substanitally similar to or implying the following:

(1) That Susan Felch, Kevin Felch, George Zdasiuk, or Richard Aurelio is having or has had an extramarital sexual affair with any person;
(2) That Susan Felch, George Zdasiuk, Joseph Phair, Varian managers generally, or Plaintiffs' attorneys are liars or have intentionally made false statements regarding Delfino, Day, or MoBeta;
(3) That Susan Felch, George Zdasiuk, or Varian managers generally are neurotic, insane, or crazy;
(4) That Susan Felch, George Zdasiuk, or Varian managers generally hallucinate or imagine voices, faces, or gestures;
(5) That Susan Felch, George Zdasiuk, or Varian managers generally are non-technical persons;
(6) That Susan Felch, George Zdasiuk, or Varian managers generally, or Plaintiffs' attorneys are incompetent, unqualified, inept, stupid, ignorant, or not well-respected professionally;
(7) That Susan Felch, George Zdasiuk, or Varian managers generally do not follow company policy;
(8) That Susan Felch, George Zdasiuk, or Varian managers generally are homophobic;
(9) That Susan Felch, George Zdasiuk, Varian Associates, Varian Medical, or Varian Semiconductor wrongfully terminated or harassed Delfino, Day, or other employees, or drove them to quit, or created a hostile work environment;
(10) That Susan Felch, George Zdasiuk, Richard Levy, Kathy Hibbs, Craig Moro, or any other Varian employee, or Varian itself, has videotaped persons in company bathrooms, going to the bathroom, using the bathroom, or engaging in any private activities in the bathroom, or has otherwise invaded the privacy of any person in the bathroom;
(11) That Varian Associates, Varian Medical, Varian Semicondcutor, Susan Felch, George Zdasiuk, or Plaintiffs' attorneys are bullies, fascists, tyrants, or seek to oppress free speecj, or that this is a SLAPP lawsuit;
(12) That Varian Associates, Varian Medical, Varian Semicondcutor, Susan Felch, George Zdasiuk, or Plaintiffs' attorneys destroyed or tampered with evidence;
(13) That Susan Felch sabotaged a laboratory;
(14) That Susan Felch is 'scary' or has violent tendencies;
(15) That George Zdasiuk would not have hired a woman employee if he had known she was pregnant;
(16) That Richard Aurelio was removed from the board of directors of Novellus Systems for improprieties;
(17) That Susan Felch, George Zdasiuk, or employees generally at Varian Associates, Varian Medical, or Varian Semiconductor are not working, go home early, lack integrity, cheat the government, are underachievers, or intentionally lower product quality;
(18) That Delfino is a current Varian employee.

c. Refrain from telephoning, faxing, mailiig, or otherwise sending any letter or other form of communication for any purpose to Susan Felch, Kevin Felch, George Zdasiuk, Julie Fouquet, Richard Levy, Richard Aurelio, Joseph Phair, Kathy Hibbs, Ron Powell, Jim Fair, or Jane Crisler, or any trial witness or attorney, or their families, without the prior written consent of the recipient of the communication;
d. Refrain from using any pseudonym to discuss, in any way, any aspect of the business, stock prices, or employees of Varian Medcial or Varian Semiconductor on the Internet, except under the pseudonyms 'ima_posta2' (Delfino) and 'dantecristo' (Day);
e. Refrain from impersonating Susan Felch, George Zdasiuk, or any other past or present employee, officer, or director of Varian Associates, Varian Medical, or Varian Semiconductor on the Internet or elsewhere; and
f. Refrain from conspiring with, encouraging, requesting, or otherwise contacting others to engage in any of the actions specified in the injunction.
3. Order defendants to pay Plaintiffs the general and presumed damages sustained by Plaintiffs as a result of defendants' unlawful acts;
4. Order defendants to pay Plaintiffs the special damages sustained by Plaintiffs as a result of defendants' unlawful acts;
5. Order defendants to pay Plaintiffs punitive damages;
6. Order defendants to pay Plaintiffs their attorney's fees incurred in this action and all other costs of the action; and
7. Order such other relief as the Court deems just and equitable.
Dated: July 4, 2000"



To: Jeffrey S. Mitchell who wrote (454)7/15/2000 9:17:18 AM
From: PatiBob  Respond to of 12465
 
Jeff.......you are so organized it's scary!

PB



To: Jeffrey S. Mitchell who wrote (454)7/15/2000 6:41:47 PM
From: StockDung  Respond to of 12465
 
RE:Skip Nordstron buy report on Ziasun. If you go to this link nicstock.com you will find the Skip Nordstron buy report on Ziasun. The link to the disclaimer does not work. I guess he did not learn his lesson from this link. sec.gov This is what the disclaimer might look like if it worked.

The information provided herein is based on sources which National Investors Council, LLC (NIC) considers to be reliable, but it is not guaranteed by NIC, nor does this report represent a solicitation to buy or sell the securities discussed herein. The information contained herein is subject to change without notice, and NIC assumes no responsibility to update the information in this report. Any sales, and/or earnings forecasts included herein were independently prepared by NIC, unless otherwise stated, and are not endorsed by the management of the company which is the subject of this report. Use of this report may be subject to the applicable rules of certain self-regulatory organizations and securities mentioned herein which are traded over-the-counter may not be cleared for sale in certain states. National Investors Council, LLC and/or its employees, officers, affiliates, or members of their families may have long or short positions in the securities discussed in this report. NIC has been compensated $ 5,000 for the preparation of this report by the subject company of such report.

Disclaimer for
"GrowthStock Newsletter & Pick of the Litter"

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To: Jeffrey S. Mitchell who wrote (454)7/15/2000 8:10:05 PM
From: StockDung  Respond to of 12465
 
Yes when The Veritas Group Reprinted with permission ZiaSun Technologies Inc buy report The Veritas Group took out the disclaimer.I have said this before, but I can't say it enough…Diversification is a major key to financial success in the investment world! Now, that doesn't just hold true with an individual's personal investment portfolio, it has continuously created extraordinary financial success at the corporate level as well.For further information, contact Rory Boyes-Valey at 604-331-9583.

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ZiaSun Technologies Inc.
"Pick of the Litter" - March, 1999
Reprinted with permission,
From Skip Nordstrom's Growth Stock Newsletter

I have said this before, but I can't say it enough…Diversification is a major key to financial success in the investment world! Now, that doesn't just hold true with an individual's personal investment portfolio, it has continuously created extraordinary financial success at the corporate level as well.

One company that qualifies as a "Pick of the Litter" is ZiaSun Technologies, Inc. (OTC:ZSUN), an internet holding company. Being a holding company, ZiaSun, Inc. has created it's own diversification within it's own infrastructure. This company makes acquisitions of other companies within it's industry that will nicely fit under it's "Corporate Umbrella", and hence creates it's own 'Mutual Fund'.

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What puts ZiaSun, Inc. at the forefront of it's industry is that they have what most of their competition doesn't have, a solid nucleus of web products that bring internal synergy to the overall equation. ZiaSun is actively pursuing acquisitions in high traffic websites, proprietary internet software, telephony, and bandwidth providers, as well as other internet services. They are selecting internet companies that are already successful concerns, and which are generating revenues from subscriptions, advertising, information and/or service fees.

ZiaSun's initial holdings include Momentum Internet, Inc., and Momentum Asia, Inc. Momentum Internet, Inc. currently has five products and services that encompass three revenue categories.

Swiftrade, a copyrighted website solution, (www.swiftrade.com) is the first online trading system designed to specifically target overseas investors. Their technology provides a direct link to the floor of all major US Stock Exchanges, and anticipates being the first trading system to allow trading on five of the world's largest stock markets from a single website.

On February 5th, it was announced that Swiftrade will launch a new service for investors worldwide to trade on the Stock Exchange of Hong Kong through its on-line trading website. Swiftrade will work in conjunction with one of the most reputable Hong Kong stock brokerages in addition to one of the world's best known financial information providers to allow investors anywhere in the world easy, efficient, and inexpensive access to one of the world's most dynamic stock markets. The Hong Kong brokerage will be the first to take advantage of Momentum's new "plug-and-play" software developed for brokers to provide on-line trading in any market in the world. Swiftrade will begin offering trading on the Stock Exchange of Hong Kong, in addition to the American markets in a matter of a few weeks.

No other single Internet stock trading system allows investors anywhere to trade securities in Hong Kong or New York off one website.

Management also noted that Swiftrade would be hosted on two high-speed servers, one in California and the other in Hong Kong. These servers would allow for faster access for traders worldwide, and should all but eliminate trading down-time. Once the Hong Kong trading service is up and running, it is anticipated that other major stock markets around the world would be added to Swiftrade.

Swiftrade's exclusive arrangement with a U.S. NASD broker/dealer and clearing agent currently allows investors worldwide to trade NYSE, AMEX, NASDAQ, and OTC stocks through a direct electronic link with the exchanges. Swiftrade, with it's advanced customer service program, is the only on-line stock trading system that specializes in non-U.S. resident investors.

On February 25th, Ziasun opened a new Internet development facility in Manila, Philippines to access a large pool of well-educated and skilled local technical, design and marketing talent. However, the company will not be competing in the local market. Its focus will be on the development of Internet platforms for global on-line stock trading, web-based e-mail applications, online auction and barter software, international financial news delivery systems, and other activities for the expansion of Momentum's e-commerce services.

The office is housed in a modern high-rise facility in metro Manila with the most updated computer and telecom facilities available. Momentum sees excellent potential in Manila for staffing its development center with quality, well-educated and creative programmers, designers and online marketers.

The Manila office should be a tremendous engine for growth. It will provide the opportunity for the company to develop their Web products much faster and more cost efficiently, and allow them to expand more forcefully into e-commerce in the Asian and European markets.

Because of the fact that all of the company's web services are international in nature, Momentum hopes to help the Philippines develop into a force in the global Internet industry. As more and more Portal companies cast their eyes towards international markets where the largest potential for growth exists, the likelihood of a strong Philippine presence becomes more and more feasible. Ziasun acts as a perfect gateway into China and Hong Kong and as such becomes a perfectly positioned Asian portal.

Momentum Finance is a comprehensive financial website providing data on U.S., Asian, and European stock markets, and earns revenues from advertising and subscription services. Regular advertisers include Barclay's International Funds Asia, and the Far Eastern Economic Review.

Mediahits is a banner advertising network supported by Momentum's proprietary software which has over 6,200 hosts, and already generates in excess of 10 million impressions per month.

Pinmail is a premium, web based e-mail system designed for business travelers and others who need their e-mail in a simple, easily managed location. This unique proprietary software package has several technical advantages over other competitive systems, and is an exciting product in the face of Microsoft's recent $400 million acquisition of it's competitor, Hotmail.

Lastly, Search Dragon is a search engine and business directory designed specifically for the Asian region covering Hong Kong, Indonesia, Macau, Malaysia, the Philippines, Singapore, Taiwan, and Thailand. This form of geographic specialization is also being performed by industry leader Yahoo as companies seek to gain dominance in non-US markets.

ZiaSun's second subsidiary, Momentum Asia, Inc., provides a wide range of compatible graphic design, writing, printing, database management, and customer service operations.

ZiaSun is integrating Momentum Asia's services with those of Momentum Internet. While they will remain distinct companies, Momentum Asia's design and copy-writing capacity will generate content for Momentum Internet sites. Momentum Internet's corporate client base will be offered preferential packages blending the large subscriber and user base of the internet with the database management and customer service/marketing support facilities of Momentum Asia. Further acquisitions will extend this synchronized approach, and ZiaSun is actively pursuing acquisitions in high traffic websites, proprietary Internet software, telephony and bandwidth providers, and related Internet services.

On February 8th, ZiaSun released preliminary 1998 financial results for Momentum Asia Inc. The company reported earnings of $950,000 on revenues of $2,400,000, which not only is an excellent growth rate, but substantially exceeded its revenue and earnings projections.

Momentum Asia's results show substantial increases in revenues, earnings, and assets. Earnings for 1997 totaled $140,000, increasing to $180,000 in the first half of 1998 and $770,000 in the second half, for an annual growth rate of over 600%. Year-end net assets increased from $800,000 at the

end of 1997 to $3 million at the end of 1998. The company carries no debt of any kind.

The company is undergoing a new audit, and expects to release full 1998 consolidated results for ZiaSun in March, 1999. Management is confident that with this contribution from Momentum Asia, earnings per share will exceed the projected $.11.

Now, with all of these companies underneath it's "Corporate Umbrella", here is the main point of consideration about ZiaSun, Inc.….Unlike many internet companies with no net earnings that have been "bid-up" to extravagant prices which the stock is unable to support for a long term, ZiaSun's subsidiary's are active, income generating concerns. By diversifying across a wide spectrum of internet-related activities, Ziasun offers investors an opportunity to reduce the risk of over specialization, as well as over speculation, while capitalizing on the growth prospects inherent in this industry.

There are many companies, including one's that I have in my own portfolio, whose stock price can multiply several times over on the basis of speculation and media exposure. The bad news is that roller coaster rides can be pretty scary sometimes, and unless you're belted in, you can be thrown right out on your head. (Been there, done that.)

However, through carefully planned acquisitions, ZiaSun seems to me to be on a fast, yet steady, track upwards. The potential is seemingly unlimited. Do your own due-diligence, (the operative word is "do"), and I think that you will like what you see!

For more information, please call 888-548-9777


Financials
ZiaSun Technologies Inc. is poised to benefit from the continued growth of Internet participation and Internet commerce, a boom which is expected to intensify as PC prices decline. ZiaSun controls a wide range of stand alone Internet products and services, any of which can be sold off at any time. Sale of just one of these products for $10 million -- a modest price by today's standards -- would yield a pure profit of $1.00 per share to ZiaSun shareholders.

ZiaSun provides one-stop entry into a diversified package of Internet-related businesses, offering investors an opportunity to buy into the World Wide Web without the excessive competitive risk that accompanies over specialization.

Many Internet companies have been bid up to extravagant prices, despite showing substantial losses at the bottom line. David Menlow, president of the IPO Financial Network, recently commented on this phenomenon, describing a profitable Internet IPO as "unheard of". ZiaSun is a notable exception to this trend, with subsidiaries that are active, profitable concerns with excellent growth rates.

Shares in Internet companies are valued more on growth potential than on discounted cash flows, revenues, earnings, and P/E multiples. While ZiaSun shares the growth potential of other Internet companies, it begins with financial fundamentals superior to those of many non-Internet companies.

ZiaSun Technologies, Inc., which trades on the OTC Bulletin Board (ZSUN) has filed to become a fully reporting company. They have 10 million shares of stock outstanding, with 2.5 million shares in the float.

For further information, contact Rory Boyes-Valey at 604-331-9583.


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To: Jeffrey S. Mitchell who wrote (454)7/15/2000 9:08:20 PM
From: StockDung  Respond to of 12465
 
**YET ANOTHER LIE FROM ANTHONY L TOBIN OF ZIASUN**

I have NEVER been short Ziasun stock and have never been paid a dime to discuss this dismal company or to write about it. At least he is right about one thing. He will never win a debate with me.

"Ziasun has sought but failed to get court injunctions against some of its harshest critics. Tobin says they're short-selling the stock--claims that the critics deny--hoping to earn a profit by driving the price down. "Those people are fanatics. You cannot win a debate with them." google.com



To: Jeffrey S. Mitchell who wrote (454)7/15/2000 9:27:32 PM
From: StockDung  Respond to of 12465
 
Looks Like Mark Harris is changing the business model again:

kngi.com
Based in Port Coquitlam, Kensington Beverage Corp. - Kensington International, Inc. (listed on the U.S. NASDAQ at KNGI) is one of Canada's leading distributors of soft drinks, juices, bottled waters and other packaged beverages. The company's main brand names are, BetterStuff and Fountain Fresh. Learn more about this investment and the innovative distribution method. google.com

Looks Like Mark Harris is changing the business model again:

Registrant:
LOVEMESSAGE CO. (KNGI10-DOM)
kwanjingu jayangdong
SEOUL, SEOUL 143-192
KR

Domain Name: KNGI.COM

Administrative Contact, Billing Contact:
LOVEMESSAGE CO. (LC1976-ORG) chohwayo@KORNET.NET
LOVEMESSAGE CO.
kwanjingu jayangdong
KR
02 458 0128
Fax- 123 123 1234
Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
WorldNIC Name Host (HOST-ORG) namehost@WORLDNIC.COM
Network Solutions, Inc.
505 Huntmar Park Drive
Herndon, VA 20170
1-888-642-9675

Record last updated on 12-Feb-2000.
Record expires on 12-Feb-2002.
Record created on 12-Feb-2000.
Database last updated on 13-Jul-2000 21:04:43 EDT.

Domain servers in listed order:

NS27.WORLDNIC.COM 216.168.225.157
NS28.WORLDNIC.COM 216.168.225.158

"Dean Heller
Nevada Secretary of State
Corporate Information

Name: KENSINGTON INTERNATIONAL, INC.

Type: Corporation File Number: 1786-1981 State: NEVADA Incorporated On: March 18, 1981
Status: Current list of officers on file Corp Type: Regular
Resident Agent: PARACORP INCORPORATED (Accepted)
Address: 318 NO. CARSON ST. STE.#208
CARSON CITY NV 89701
President: MARK HARRIS
Address: 462 STEVENS AVENUE
SUITE 106
SOLANA BEACH CA 92075
Secretary: MARK HARRIS
Address: 462 STEVENS AVENUE
SUITE 106
SOLANA BEACH CA 92075
Treasurer: MARK HARRIS
Address: 462 STEVENS AVENUE
SUITE 106
SOLANA BEACH CA 92075

KENSINGTON INTERNATIONAL, INC. ("KNGI-L")
- Recent Corporate Developments

Brian Birmingham, President & CEO of Kensington International, Inc.
(KNGI) or (the "Company") is pleased to announce that Kensington Beverage Corporation (KBC), its wholly owned
subsidiary, has had the following developments during 1997 to strengthen its business strategy of becoming a leader in
the Alternative Beverage distribution business:
* KNGI is negotiating for a $2 million inventory funding to fill both existing and future orders. The funding is expected
to return
approximately 25% gross to the Company, and should generate a positive cash flow. Upon reaching profitability, the
Company plans to make an
application to NASDAQ, level 1.

* KNGI has contracted VERITAS MARKETING AND COMMUNICATIONS CORP., with offices in
Vancouver, to provide both corporate and shareholder
communications. VERITAS can be reached by telephone at (800) 773-7317 or through their email address
veritas@vericom.ca.

* KBC expanded its distribution lines to include packaged goods in
February 1997.

To: Harold Finstad who wrote (13)
From: Randy berg Monday, Jan 5 1998 2:45PM ET
Reply # of 105

Harold, happy new year. Am glad to see a subject pop up like this. Every year I have a friend who gives me 2 or 3
stocks to play. I have always made at least a tripple on them. Yesterday he gave me a new one to start out the year.
It is Kensington International (KNGI) OTC. They are the exclusive licensee for Canada, South Korea, and a large
part of China for the Betterstuff Beverage Dispenser, a revolutionary in-store bottling system manufactured by
fountain fresh inc. This system allows customers to bottal their own beverages in returnable containers, reducing
priced and shelf space requirtments and increasing profit margins for the distributor and retailer. it is currently trading
at 1.75. They will apply for level 1 small cap NASDAQ status within 90 days. This looks like a solid winner, but as
always do your own homework. If any one is interested you can call 1-800-773-7317, and they will send you an
investment package. Hope everyone had a super new year. Randy
siliconinvestor.com

one momentum-hk.com Veritas clients:

INTERNET CLIENTS

Alternative Current Investor
Amber Securities

Bennett Associates Limited

Barclays Global Investors Hong Kong Limited

BeSt Way USA, Inc. (a veritas client)

California Association of Hong Kong

Chequemate International Inc (a veritas client)

CreditRisk Asia Limited
(Specialty Reinsurance)

Dynatec International Inc (a veritas client)

Global Finance Report

Hastings & Co
International Asset Management

Kensington (a veritas client)

Loraca Inc (a veritas client)

New Age Publications

Pacific Continental Securities Corporation

Philip Jay Publishing Limited

South Sea Resources Ltd

Swiftrade

Titan Motorcycle Co. of America (a veritas client)

U.S. Invest

momentum internet inc
17/F, 53 - 55 Lockhart Road,
Wanchai, Hong Kong
Tel: (852) 2877 8011
Fax: (852) 2877 8016"
E-Mail: momentum@PINmail.com"

KNGI - KENSINGTON INTL INC (NEW)
Exchange: OTC
Delay: at least 15 minutes
Last Price: 0.031
Change: Unchanged (0.00%)
High: --
Low: --
Open: Not Available
Previous Close: 0.031 on 3/29
Volume: 0
Currency Units: US Dollar

Confirm all data with your broker or financial advisor before trading.

Data by: S&P ComStock



To: Jeffrey S. Mitchell who wrote (454)7/16/2000 2:55:00 PM
From: StockDung  Respond to of 12465
 
To: Anthony L Tobin who wrote (269)
From: TheTruthseeker Sunday, Jul 16, 2000 2:52 PM ET
Reply # of 8778

AS you know Mr. Tobin I have never been short your stock. You have accused me in the press over and over again that I have. The touts have been busy posting this press release not fully understanding its intent. I have highlighted some of it for you.

"I FURTHER STATE THAT I WAS WHOLLY MISLED BY THIRD PARTIES IN THE DISSEMINATION OF THIS FALSE INFORMATION, AND I CAME TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE PROMOTERS AND DIRECTORS OF DCI FALSELY CLAIMED THAT THE CONTINUING FALL IN THE DCI STOCK PRICE WAS A RESULT OF MICHAEL ZWEBNER'S SUPPOSED SHORT SELLING. TO MY EMBARRASSMENT I LATER LEARNED THAT WAS UNTRUE."

" I MADE ACCUSATIONS AGAINST MICHAEL ZWEBNER INCLUDING FALSE AND DEFAMATORY STATEMENTS IN RELATION TO HIS ASSOCIATION WITH DCI AND HIS ALLEGED "SHORTING OF DCI STOCK AND HIS BANKRUPTCY".

Re: 7/13/00 - [TVCP] Talk Visual Chairman Wins $1 Million Judgment Against Libelous Internet Poster
July 13, 2000 14:14

Talk Visual Chairman Wins $1 Million Judgment Against Libelous Internet Poster

MIAMI--(BUSINESS WIRE)--July 13, 2000--(OTC-BB: TVCP). Talk Visual Corporation Chairman Michael J. Zwebner announced today that the lawsuit(Federal District Court for the District of New Hampshire, Civil Action No. 98-CV-682-M) brought in New Hampshire against a number of defendants, including a certain Gary Dobry (alias Pugs, & Spider Valdez) and David Shepard (alias Rico Staris) has been settled. As part of the settlement, it has been agreed that the following public statement be officially made:

THIS ANNOUNCEMENT APPEARS AS A MATTER OF RECORD.

IN THE PERIOD OF SEPTEMBER THROUGH DECEMBER 1998, I GARY DOBRY USING THE ALIASES "PUGS" and "SPIDER VALDEZ" POSTED ON SILICON INVESTOR CHAT LINES, AND CREATED A NEW CHAT LINE WHICH I CALLED "NO BASH FOR LEGACY." I MADE ACCUSATIONS AGAINST MICHAEL ZWEBNER INCLUDING FALSE AND DEFAMATORY STATEMENTS IN RELATION TO HIS ASSOCIATION WITH DCI AND HIS ALLEGED "SHORTING OF DCI STOCK AND HIS BANKRUPTCY".

I WISH NOW TO MAKE THE FOLLOWING STATEMENT.

I NOW TOTALLY AND ABSOLUTELY APOLOGIZE TO MICHAEL ZWEBNER AND HIS FAMILY FOR ALL THE PAIN AND SUFFERING AND PUBLIC HUMILIATION I CAUSED HIM. I FURTHER STATE THAT I WAS WHOLLY MISLED BY THIRD PARTIES IN THE DISSEMINATION OF THIS FALSE INFORMATION, AND I CAME TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE PROMOTERS AND DIRECTORS OF DCI FALSELY CLAIMED THAT THE CONTINUING FALL IN THE DCI STOCK PRICE WAS A RESULT OF MICHAEL ZWEBNER'S SUPPOSED SHORT SELLING. TO MY EMBARRASSMENT I LATER LEARNED THAT WAS UNTRUE.

I FURTHER INFORM YOU ALL THAT THE LAWSUIT FILED BY MR. ZWEBNER AGAINST ME HAS BEEN SETTLED. I, GARY DOBRY HAVE CONSENTED TO A SETTLEMENT JUDGMENT BEING ENTERED AGAINST ME FOR THE AMOUNT OF ONE MILLION DOLLARS IN FAVOR OF MICHAEL ZWEBNER. MR. ZWEBNER HAS AGREED NOT TO ENFORCE THE JUDGMENT FOR SO LONG AS I DO NOT ATTACK HIM OR HIS BUSINESSES FURTHER. WE HAVE ALSO AGREED TO SIGN A MUTUAL RELEASE. I REGRET HAVING BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS EPISODE. GARY DOBRY

Michael Zwebner, in a statement made today, said, "This case was a libel case against me and against Legacy Software, Inc., now known as Talk Visual Corporation. I am pleased that this litigation is over. I feel vindicated in as much that these posters have come clean and have admitted their false and libelous actions. My family, and my business associates, as well as myself are relieved that all these false, malicious and libelous statements have been exposed for what they are, namely, FALSE, MALICIOUS AND LIBELOUS. The closure of this case, as well as the action taken by the Securities and Exchange Commission against DCI, Joseph Murphy, and others, is a very clear, loud and emphatic statement. It confirms to the public at large the real true facts, the truth, as I have always claimed it to be."

ABOUT TALK VISUAL CORPORATION

Talk Visual Corporation (OTC-BB: TVCP) is a pioneer in the video teleconferencing industry. It is developing global retail facilities to accommodate the growing video-communications needs of two key market segments: businesses and expatriate ethnic populations. Talk Visual can be reached toll-free at 1-877-22VIDEO within the United States, or at 305 572-0575 from abroad.

CONSUMER LONG DISTANCE SERVICE is now available through Talk Visual at the Company's new website for quality, low-cost long distance services at talkvisual-ld.com.

Talk Visual sells pagers at www.beeperforabuck.com. Information on the new Talk Visual TV225 Video-Telephone can be seen on www.thevideotelephone.com. In addition, visitors are directed to visit the company's home page at www.talkvisual.com and click on the FAQ section, and or to read the Chairman's Corner latest weekly message.

A list of Talk Visual's videocalling shops is at www.talkvisual.com. The site allows visitors to order the 4th edition of the company's impressive full-color newspaper.

Statements in this release which are not historical including statements regarding Talk Visual's or management's intentions, hopes, beliefs, expectations, representations, projections, plans or predictions of the future are forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform of 1995, Section 21E of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, as amended, and Section 27A of the Securities Act of 1933, as amended. It is important to note that the Company's actual results could differ materially from those in any such forward-looking statements and include any of the risk factors listed from time to time in the Company's SEC reports, including but not limited to, the annual report on form 10-KSB for the year ended December 31, 1999, and the quarterly report on Form 10-QSB for the quarter ended March 31, 2000. This release does not constitute an offer to sell securities.

CONTACT: Talk Visual Corporation
Janeth Iglesias-Vega, 305/572-0575
Info@TalkVisual.com

newsalert.com.



To: Jeffrey S. Mitchell who wrote (454)7/16/2000 4:54:49 PM
From: StockDung  Respond to of 12465
 
WEST AMERICA SECURITIES CORPORATION

4510 E. THOUSAND OAKS BLVD. SUITE 100

WESTLAKE VILLAGE, CA 91362

April 5, 1999

Jonathan G. Katz

Secretary

Securities and Exchange Commission

Mail Stop 6-9

450 Fifth Street NW

Washington, D.C. 20549

RE: Proposed amendments to Rule 15c2-11 (SEC File No. S7-5-99)

Sir,

West America is a small broker-dealer located in Westlake Village, CA whose primary market making activities take place on the OTC Bulletin Board. Soon, as a result of the new rules as adopted by the NASD, many of these stocks may be trading on the Pink Sheets. Having followed many of the small cap stocks for years now, we have developed a vested interest in the success of many of these issuers, not only for the benefit of the issuers themselves but more importantly for the shareholders that own stock in these issuers. If these amendments become effective, the damage to these issuers will be irreparable and the losses incurred by the thousands of shareholders of these issuers will be devastating.

It is impossible for a small firm such as ours, to be held legally responsible for the accuracy of the financial information that any issuer discloses. In fact, I cannot imagine any firm of any size being able to operate under these impossible conditions. This is a no win situation.......period. Market makers lose, broker-dealers lose, investors lose and all of the small issuers lose.

Currently, we follow each issuer that we make a market in to keep up to date as to any developments within the organization. We must take each disclosure at face value as accurate and correct. We simply don't have the resources to hire private investigators to verify the accuracy of each and every detail of an issuers business. Obviously, fraud is something that no honest market maker wants any part of. If a broker dealer is found to have aided an issuer in a fraudulent activity, then certainly that broker dealer should be held accountable. However, to expect that a broker dealer has the time and resources to verify each and every daily aspect of 100 different issuers and still have time to run their own business is simply not feasible.

In short, we are vehemently opposed to the amendments to the Rule and ask that it be struck down.

Sincerely,

Robert B. Kay

President
sec.gov



To: Jeffrey S. Mitchell who wrote (454)7/20/2000 9:42:31 AM
From: ztect  Respond to of 12465
 
Read a lot of slap suits made by companies,
but haven't read of any actual litigation pursued,
or settlements/judgments awarded favorable to any of the
companies that have filed suit.

Has any such litigation been pursued,
or favorable settlements or judgments made
for the complainants?

What about any cease and desist orders issued?

Thanks

z