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To: Jdaasoc who wrote (47339)	7/16/2000 10:12:15 PM
From: Bilow	Respond to of 93625

Hi Jdassoc; Re adding another processor... Most of the time this is a great idea for compute bound boxes. But the Xilinx synthesize, place and route software, for instance, runs under DOS, and doesn't use a second processor. If you want to do the same chip twice, and pick the better result, you can use the second processor, though, but I don't like having to do this. (It is a sign that you are letting too much randomness dictate the survival of your design. It is better to always have the machine give satisfactory results on the first pass.) But there is no doubt in my mind that in order to get the actual memory bandwidth to a high enough level in a real world application, it will require dual processors on an FSB faster than Intel's current 133MHz x 8 bytes. That will be the second area where DDR will shine, but the Athlons will get there first. The first place where DDR is going to shine is in portable situations, and that is because of its considerably lower power consumption. The rest of the industry is going to get along fine with SDRAM until the price cross over. (I.e. mid 2002 or later.) Personally, I'm waiting for a high end dual Athlon system with DDR. And I'll wait until the price on them drops to something reasonable. (Maybe late 1Q01.) Until then, I can get by with the obsolete piece of junk I have. It seems like computers are taking longer and longer to fall into complete obsolescence. -- Carl

To: Jdaasoc who wrote (47339)	7/17/2000 11:53:43 AM
From: charred water	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 93625

Jdaasoc, Your past posts indicate some insight into channel sales. Could you help me find the price for the SDRAM that is being used to benchmark the 815? From Intel's website, it was: PC133 CL2 SDRAM (Micron MT16LSDT1664AG-13EC7 PC133-222) The SDRAM sold with most systems is PC133-332. Prices for PC133 generally refer to this commonly sold part. However, it is 50% slower than the top margin bin split. I'm sure there must be info and pricing on the part, but I have not been able to find it. I looked at pricewatch.com, micron.com and crucial.com. If you can help, do not be deceived by the CL2 parts that are PC133-322, which are still 25% slower than the benchmarking parts. Greg