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To: shamsaee who wrote (28106)7/17/2000 1:23:57 PM
From: sam  Respond to of 54805
 
WCDMA looks a lot less of a 'real' alternative than it did last Friday. IMO there will likely be serious strategy sessions in boardrooms over the next few weeks. Then, perhaps, some important decisions will be implemented quietly. At the same time, there may still be some angry "noise" coming from unfriendly places...



To: shamsaee who wrote (28106)7/17/2000 1:25:39 PM
From: foundation  Respond to of 54805
 
"Confused as usual."
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NTT will clear the clouds.

With 1x, as first phase of their "wCDMA" buildout.

Recall, SK Telecom's future version of wCDMA (which is NTT's) is backward compatible with their latency system (soon to be 1x/HDR). Also, ERICY suggests that 1x can be on the upgrade path to either wCDMA or CDMA 2000.

Europe cannot "call the game on account of rain" for 2(?) years while they get their technology in order. Asia clearly has the opportunity to take the wCDMA "ball". And little reason to resist. Euro-virgin-wCDMA is dead.

Fortunately, in the end, it's QCOM's ball.



To: shamsaee who wrote (28106)7/17/2000 3:08:33 PM
From: Eric L  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 54805
 
shamsaee,

<< IS it CDMA2000 3x with minor changes to fit on top of GSM? >>

cdma2000 3x is VAPORWARE <g> or :-(.

cdma2000 3x does not even exist in specification, and that is about as vapourware as you can get, IMO, and it reflects in the current valuation of QCOM stock, also IMO, because the carriers of the world are figuring this out. While it is possible that 3xMC will be commercially deliverable before UMTS UTRA DS (WCDMA), CDG's latest roadmap (borrowed from Andrew Seybold) shows it delivering at about the same time as DS. Harmonization could hold this up. DS might deliver before 3xMC. See slide 21 below:

cdg.org

I am not sure but I think that this is one of the real problems that Qualcomm is having when it comes time for technology selection by major carriers that license new spectrum. This surfaced in Japan several months back when DDI almost decided on WCDMA because it appeared that WCDMA would be ready before cdma2000 3xMC with the requisite R-UIM for international roaming.

I never expected GSM carriers to select cdma2000, but I am darned surprised when IS-95 carriers select it.

<< Is DOCOMOS wcdma, a cdma2000 1x with some cosmetic changes. >>

No. It is an asynchronous mode of CDMA designed from the ground up to use the entire bandwidth of the IMT-2000 spectrum the WRC set aside in 1992 for 3G wireless mobile telephony and bandwidth is one of the areas where WCDMA differs from cdma2000. W-CDMA specification development so far as I know commenced before cdma2000.

<< I find it hard to believe carriers would take a risk on a technology that is not proven based on NOK and ERIC pledge that we are working on it and will deliver. >>

I will simply say that the Korean government, PrimeCo and WirelessCo (Sprint PCS) took the same risk in 1995 when they took the word of Qualcomm, Lucent, Motorola, and Nortel that IS-95 CDMA would work. IS-95 CDMA was a totally unproven technology that was very late to market and had not even gone into commercial trial in Hong Kong when these decisions were made.

CDMA worked. Qualcomm commercialized it. Qualcomm has essential IPR in cdma2000 & UMTS UTRA DS (WCDMA). That is why I am invested in it. Despite what the good Dr. says, Qualcomm (and us investors) do care whether cdma2000 or UMTS UTRA DS (WCDMA). There is no uncertainty where we stand with cdma2000. There is on UMTS UTRA DS (WCDMA). Eventually that uncertainty will resolve. Now the uncertainty depresses the value of our investment, unfortunately.

- Eric -



To: shamsaee who wrote (28106)7/17/2000 5:29:04 PM
From: 100cfm  Respond to of 54805
 
shamsaee, Toshiba just signed a new license agreement to include WCDMA, if it were BS I'm sure they wouldn't have included it in the new agreement.

WCDMA may be BS as far as it coming from NOK but not from Q.
Q would not put out a release date on a BS product. That is not to say it will work as good as CMDA2000 but rest assure there will be a WCDMA chip and it will be from Q.

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