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To: Jim McMannis who wrote (120430)	7/17/2000 5:24:39 PM
From: dougSF30	Respond to of 1572369

Thread, I'm pretty sure that ebusiness roadmap must be out of date... I was primarily posting the link just to see if I could get Paul to spaz all over it. Interesting that INTC denied the earlier register story of Itanic having big delays and yield troubles at 800 MHz ( and imagine, it runs 32-bit code slower than the P3.. so that's like, what, a 650MHz coppermine on most software?), although the extent of their denial may have weak-- "it is still on schedule", or the like, but given how vague the schedule is... who knows what that means? Doug

To: Jim McMannis who wrote (120430)	7/17/2000 5:29:37 PM
From: ptanner	Respond to of 1572369

Jim, Re: "I am at a loss to explain why Intels roadmap says 1 Ghz... Surely Intel can't sandbagging...not after they have demoed 1.4 Mhz chips." Others have noted that Intel demoed P3 at 1+GHz well before they were ever able to sell any... so it could be a demo vs production issue. However, since Intel has said P4 at 1.3/1.4 this year I tend to believe they will release these speeds in some volume. Maybe they are planning some downbinning to reduce the pressure on high-speed P3 and provide for a full range of speeds across their product lines (no gap). The number of P4 this year will be the big issue and whether they have the same, high thermal requirements as the 1G P3. Another issue will be the apparent short life of the first version of P4 -- will there be much interest in a product whose pinout (?) will change within six months? When AMD changed the Athlon after about 10 mos. many were unhappy their upgrade paths were ended and apparently suppliers were caught in the transition (the extra 1M KX133 MB). -PT

To: Jim McMannis who wrote (120430)	7/17/2000 6:02:55 PM
From: Joe NYC	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1572369

Jim, Merced is still having hard time reaching > 600 MHz: g2news.com Joe

To: Jim McMannis who wrote (120430)	7/17/2000 6:33:30 PM
From: EricRR	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1572369

I found independent conformation on Intel's web site of the 1GHz willy intro speed. The date is Feb 14, could that be the reason? I'm not counting on this... intelonlineservices.com Strength in diversity Even if IA-64 fills a substantial portion of the growing need for high-end servers to feed the Internet economy, senior management at Intel, led by Barrett, recognizes that in the Internet age, with alternative devices proliferating, increasing margin pressure from new competitors, and the sheer size of Intel, it is no longer reasonable to expect growth at the 30 percent-plus rate the company experienced through most of the 1990s. “I’d be very pleased with 15 percent to 20 percent growth. I think that is realistic for a company our size,” Barrett says. To do that, the Intel road map is diversifying in order to supply silicon and products at all levels of Internet infrastructure. In the second half of this year, the desktop division will launch not only IA-64 but an entirely new line of 32-bit processors starting with Willamette. Willamette performance is expected to have an initial clock speed of about 1 GHz and a floating-point performance 20 percent greater than Pentium IIIs running at the same speed, according to research from MicroDesign Resources. Joe, If all Willy realistically does is 1 Ghz, AMD will take off like a moon rocket. I am at a loss to explain why Intels roadmap says 1 Ghz... Surely Intel can't sandbagging...not after they have demoed 1.4 Mhz chips. They list Itanium at 800 Mhz...that seems to be NOT a conservative estimate... So either it's a typo or we are going to be in for one heck of a shock. Jim