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To: greenspirit who wrote (8676)7/18/2000 12:00:23 AM
From: X Y Zebra  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 9127
 
As far as Tazio is concerned his postings of contempt and rudeness defy description. Yet, because he has lined up on the side opposite Vince he's joked with and quietly accepted. Why?

Your paranoia is greater than your delusion. I do not "line up with the other side". My thinking and my posts are mine alone. Yes, I use quotations of others, I don't hide that fact, but still, I am responsible for them. No "Left Wing Conspiracy" or similar, I act alone. I always have, and I always will.

My posts can be easily defined as contentious, abrasive and acidic against religious zombies who use whatever issue may be at hand to distribute their "mission in life" to push their beliefs on others. [or else, you are in the "out" crew]. I have always openly expressed such.

They can also be described as responding to attitudes and behaviors that cloud real issues, who do not recognize facts as they are. AKA Spin Doctors of Delusion. Or, with over-sensitive attitudes in order to twist words in a way that they were never meant.

A good example of it is you. I have posted the URL where the whole matter in this case was explained, and I am not going to search them again. You are not worth my effort. The fact that you chose to ignore such is part of the reason I would not respond to you in a civil manner. In addition, X has easily recognized your "tall tales-lies" call them whatever the hell you want to call them I don't care, I recognized your quality from response one.

I do not agree with most of the Clintoris lega-lunacy, yet You and your apostles build a whole case about the Clintoris way of defining the verb "is"...

Yet, you say in a post that you have placed X on "ignore" all this while you make reference to her posts. This truly questions what you had said.

Is that a lie, a tall tale, or bubble gum ?

I don't give a sh*t what you call it, I just know that it is consistent with my impression of you after reading a few of your posts.

You also threaten to "fight her", and two moments later you give up the fight. Confused ? ah never mind, it does not matter.

I am not sure that ...

he's joked with and quietly accepted. Why?

If Karen, X, marcos, et all, ("The ones on the dark side" according to you), are patient enough to explain to you and others what to me seems to be the obvious (provided, one takes off the bottle-lenses glasses prescribed by the Spin Delusion Doctors), then I do not see your "objection", why they would address me.

At least I do not insult their intelligence with delusional attempts to twist words and facts, pretending they are not going to notice it.

As for quietly accepted... how do you know they accept me? They probably hate my posts, but they TRULY have me on ignore, or they pay no attention to them.

You seem to be so consumed with what I say that it must really burn you... I wonder (NOT) why

I suggest you TRULY place me on ignore, that way I will not hurt your feelings. Besides, it is a spoonful of the same medicine for years the religious zealots got away dispensing to many people, the difference is that today, people like me stand up and tell you what's on our minds.

Now, if someone deliberate and repeatedly begin to insult me, well hell, they open the door to how I may choose to respond. My choice.

I am not shy. But I also value my time.

By now, I am sure you think I am "irrational" and my views are "in error"...

Well, read on:

economist.com

Being irrational may even be rational, according to some rationalists. Irrationality can be a good to be consumed like any other, argues Bryan Caplan, an economist at George Mason University—in the sense that the less it costs a person, the more of it they buy. A peculiar feature of beliefs about politics and religion, he says, is that the costs to an individual of error are “virtually non-existent, setting the private cost of irrationality at zero; it is therefore in these areas that irrational views are most apparent.” Maybe, although Mr Caplan may grow sick of having those views read back to him for eternity should he ever end up in hell.

In his book, “Alchemies of the Mind: Rationality and the Emotions”, Jon Elster of New York’s Columbia University prefers to look at the other side of the same coin. Observing that “those who are most likely to make unbiased cognitive assessments are the clinically depressed,” he argues that the “emotional price to pay for cognitive rationality may be too high.”


Got Zoloff ? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Since I can easily make the case that I am biased against religious extremists/zombies, my case is even better since, I have no fear of god or a burning hell HO HO HO.

The atmosphere here has become to stained for me to continue my presence.

dreamwater.com

Ciao bambino.....

p.s. "Theology is the effort to explain the unknowable in terms of the not worth knowing."



To: greenspirit who wrote (8676)7/18/2000 7:22:45 AM
From: Lane3  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 9127
 
. But one thing I would keep in mind is our education and training has (to a degree) conditioned us to recognize this default and discard emotionally charged words and language.

Before I close, I wanted to say I am grateful to you for the way you have stayed out of this ugliness and always tried your best to remain within the confines of our disagreement. As I am grateful to Karen and Rambi. But three people reasonably disagreeing cannot possibly survive amongst the prolific ugliness which has consumed this thread.


Hi Michael,

Why do you suppose our education conditions us to value detached writing over the emotional? No, it's not a conspiracy against Marisleysis and other "real (uneducated) people." It's because our education is supposed to be a civilizing and enlightening influence on us. It's supposed to discourage, for example, those Tazio rants of which you are so fond, or this charmer from Vinnie, Post #7570, in which 16% of the words are "frikkken" or some variation thereof.

If we value civility in our society and thoughtful discussion, we have to value detachment in our writing. Sure, people get emotional. But that doesn't mean we shouldn't expect them to catch their breath and gather their thoughts before writing their arguments if they expect us to respect what they say.

Karen



To: greenspirit who wrote (8676)7/18/2000 9:14:22 AM
From: Lane3  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 9127
 
Hi Michael. I have a question for you or any one else who might have a thought on the subject. For those who are concerned about staying on topic, my question is consistent with the general discussion about how characteristics of written communication affect our trust levels. Also the spa in question is located in the Miami area. <g> No, this isn't a trick question.

I've been looking for a spa at which to spend 4-6 weeks shedding some weight, getting out of the internet habit and getting back in the exercise and healthy eating habit, relaxing, etc. Did I mention losing some weight? <g> I've been having trouble finding something in a physical setting that would inspire me to exercise, as opposed to a tread mill in a weight room. Also, given the amount of time I planned to stay, I was price conscious. I found one that looked promising at a remarkably reasonable price--so reasonable that I wondered if it was any good. Since the site talked about weekly packages, I sent an email asking if their program was suitable for longer term stays. I also asked if they offered any internet access. This is the response I received.

...yes you can say here as long as
you need to stay. We don't limit the time the guest would like to stay.
Our program is designed to help people who wants [sic] to get healthy. We do wait [sic]
loss here; a [sic] should lose 10 lbs. a week with our weight loss program. We
have people who have been coming here and has [sic] lost over 100 lbs. Or they're [sic]
some people who come here to learn how to eat healthy. Or some people come
her [sic] to relax. It's up to the person what he or she wants to do at our spa....


What should I infer about the spa from this correspondence? Does their having a spokesperson who is borderline illiterate say anything about the quality of their chef or physician or massage therapist? Or about roaches in the kitchen and mold spores in the bathroom? What about the fact that the response didn't answer my questions? What about her promise that I would lose 60 pounds if I stayed 6 weeks. And presumably 120 pounds in 12 weeks, 250 pounds in six months... Now that would be quite a trick!

I'd be interested in knowing what inferences you would make from the quality of this response.

Karen