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To: Joe NYC who wrote (47509)	7/19/2000 12:23:16 AM
From: charred water	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 93625

Jozef, looking for PC133 2-2-2, not 3-2-2 parts. According to Tech's info in a previous post, these would be 3-2-2 parts which are still 25% slower than 2-2-2. Apparently a 2-2-2 would need to be graded as 7.0 ns rather than 7.5 ns, as are your referenced parts. I am not questioning whether the 2-2-2 parts exist, although I am beginning to wonder whether they exist in any kind of production quantities. Regardless, most systems seem to be shipping with PC133 3-3-2. Since these are 50% slower than the benchmarked 2-2-2, the PC Mag benchmarks of boxed systems from Dell and Compaq may be substantially slower than those used to market the chipsets. If you do find the PC133 2-2-2 DIMMs, I am looking for the price info. - Greg

To: Joe NYC who wrote (47509)	7/19/2000 3:17:18 AM
From: charred water	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 93625

Thanks Jozef, Mushkin does have 2-2-2 indicated at mushkin.com for $194/$229 nonECC/ECC. The boards use Mosel Rev. 2 parts. The following explanation is on the product listing: Please note we have begun extensive tests on Athlon motherboards and PC133 memory. Our recommendation currently for Athlon boards using the Via Chipset is our Mushkin PC133 Hand Picked High Performance Modules and our Mushkin w/ Siemens Infineon PC133 Module. Our tests have shown these Mushkin modules to be extremely stable in Athlon boards. They run stable at 222, or CAS 2 at133Mhz and above in the Asus P3B-F,Epox Kx7a,Abit BE6 II, etc. We have also completed tests on our 256MB PC133 modules in the above scenario and they are also tested and stable, but run at CAS3. The tone of this note doesn't leave me with the warm feeling of confidence, but they are 2-2-2. I am surprised at the low premium for the parts, given that they are 'hand-picked'. ---------- It is less clear that 2-2-2 is available from Micron. Your link about the codes refers to Micron part numbers, not Crucial. The Micron code for a 2-2-2 module is -13Exx, which does not correspond to the Crucial speed codes. micron.com High performance CL2+ (2-2-2) Fastest PC133 latency Micron -7E Module speed grade -13Exx If you look at the Micron selector guide, the -13Exx parts are not listed: micron.com 128MB SS 16 Meg x 64 3.3V Gold (8)16 Meg x 8 TSOP MT8LSDT1664AG -662B1 -10EB1 -133B1 Greg