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To: Scumbria who wrote (120549)	7/19/2000 1:32:17 AM
From: Dave B	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1570343

Scumbria, When Reagan was president, we had a Democratic Congress to stop him from doing too much damage, but we do not have that protection available any more. Reagan had a Republican congress for the first two years of his presidency, if I remember correctly. Likewise, Clinton had a Democratic congress for the first two years of his. I think we have a fairly self-correcting form of government that tends to pull back toward the center when extremism threatens to take over. Personally, my favorite situation is having the president in one party and the majority of Congress in the other but without enough of a majority to automatically override vetoes. Dave

To: Scumbria who wrote (120549)	7/19/2000 2:21:32 AM
From: Paul Engel	Respond to of 1570343

SCUMbria - Re: "i.e. Sell out to the highest bidder." Are you referring to GORE getting all that money at the Buddhist temple ? Or John Huang (?) giving Clinton all that money from Mainland China ? Paul

To: Scumbria who wrote (120549)	7/19/2000 3:20:18 AM
From: Joe NYC	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1570343

Scumbria Sell out to the highest bidder. Well, how about Al Gore Sr. and Jr. and their sugar-daddy, life-long commie Armand Hammer and his Occidental Petroleum? Occidental is obviously the highest bidder, since they are apparently the source of the Gore family wealth. The latest is that Occidental Petroleum is about to drill in a rainforest. It has a bunch of tree-huggers up in arms. Occidental are doing all the good that you accuse the "other side" - spilling oil, contaminating lakes and rivers, taking over territory of some indigeneous tribe: thecitizen.net Hey, they are coming to your backyard with it: And Gore is also facing heat for his involvement in the sale by the Clinton administration of thousands of acres of oil-rich, publicly owned land to Occidental in 1997. The area is known as Elk Hills and it is located in Bakersfield, California. It is known as an ancestral land for Native American communities. Two prior Republican presidents - Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan - had attempted to put Elk Hills on the auction block, but backed down in the face of widespread opposition. It was President Clinton, under the advice of Vice President Gore, who approved a deal to let oil companies buy some of the reserves, pushing a bill through Congress that made it possible to sell the government's interest in the 47,000 acre Elk Hills reserve to Occidental Petroleum for $3.65 billion. It was the largest privatization of federal land in the country's history, and it tripled Occidental's reserves overnight. How much has Al Gore and his father been paid? How much does he owe to his "sponsor"? How much more wealth will be transferred from US treasury to pay off this debt? Searching for this good stuff, I discovered that Occidental Petroleum somehow acquired 20% of all resources in the territory of Albania. Did Albania make an advance payment in this form for the future US invasion of Serbia (on behalf of the Albanians). Joe

To: Scumbria who wrote (120549)	7/19/2000 10:16:56 AM
From: TimF	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1570343

Brilliant concept. Why didn't Teddy Roosevelt think to put Yellowstone and Yosemite in private hands? I'm certain that Exxon would have done a much better job protecting these gems than the government. I'm not so sure Exxon would have done a better job protecting them, but I believe private land owners who buy land in order to protect it from development tend to do a better job then the government. I don't support any great increase in government owned land. If you want to protect some land buy some of it with your profits after AMD hits 200 :). Or more likely get a group of people or an orginization to buy it. If there are any large unprotected "gems" left that you feel the government should protect then let them buy the land with the money from the sale of other land. Recognizes that global warming should be taken seriously but will require any decisions to be based on the best science; opposes Kyoto Protocol i.e. Do nothing. We have debated this one before. I wouldn't suggest doing nothing, but I would sat take no drastic and enormously expensive actions. Any cheap and easy actions would probably be ok. More research should be a high priority. Believes environmental standards must be based on the best science, market-driven technologies can provide solutions, and government should encourage innovation and going beyond compliance i.e. Sell out to the highest bidder. Baseing decisions on the best science isn't selling out to the highest bidder. Using market based insentives to reduce polution is just a case of being more efficent. You can get more overall reduction at less cost then if you use a centralized command and control model. Tim