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To: Paul Engel who wrote (1947)	7/22/2000 4:47:55 PM
From: dougSF30	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

Paul, he was using the FSB, not the multiplier, for overclocking. If the TBird is recently purchased, it probably has a 900/950 core, and with an unlocked multiplier would probably reach 1GHz no problem. Contrast with Intel 1GHz P3's, where the core is likely to be an 866, covered in a web of liquid nitrogen tubules. <g> Doug

To: Paul Engel who wrote (1947)	7/22/2000 5:42:08 PM
From: crazyoldman	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 275872

Paul, Re: If you can't get a 7'th generation AThWiper with Copper Metallization above 840 MHz, then you AND AMD have a problem. Several points: 1. I don't now nor have I ever claimed to be an overclocker. It would not surprise me that someone more capable could take this processor beyond 900 MHz. I've left Bios memory access speeds alone, and they are set at/near their maximum. Also I have not increased the voltages. If I were motivated to continue pursuing higher MHz with this processor my next efforts would involve those settings. 2. The purpose for which these machines were purchased do not require that they run any faster than stock. All investigation into "faster than stock" are to satisfy my own curiosity relating to stability margins, and a good measure of teenage "hot rodding instinct" that remains within in me. 3. By what evidence do you imply this particular processor was built with "Copper Metallization"? 4. I personally don't think 20% over stock frequency is shabby, not when it was so easily acquired by one so inexperienced in the craft. I simply stepped up the FSB. 5. If I wanted to run at 900 MHz and higher frequencies I would have bought faster processors. For me, its foolishness to "cook" this one trying to attain 1 Ghz or above. See #2 above. 6. Your comment seems strange, some processors manufactured by AMD's competitors are just now beginning to crack the 800 MHz barrier. There's talk beginning to circulate that even yet-to-be-released products made by a certain AMD competitor are performing "a bit slow" and as a result, are being pushed out on the time line. Have you heard any of this talk? All in all, it seems to me that AMD has a winner with the TBird and if the quaility/stability of the MSI K7T Pro motherboard is any indication of things to come, the Socket A infrastructure seems in good hands. That's good news for both of us. Your Fellow AMD Long, CrazyMan