To: f.simons who wrote (120741 ) 7/23/2000 10:00:34 PM From: Charles R Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 1572946 Frank, <However, I do believe that a lot of you are underestimating the importance of slowed revenue growth.> Kind of refreshing to hear you (or anyone else) say something about revenue growth. For a while I thought you were in the camp where investment gains and stock buybacks makeup for any sins on the revenue/operating profits side. Glad to hear that is not the case. I do agree with you that AMD's slowed revenue growth is not good. If you saw this thread for the last few months this event has been widely considered a possibility because of the motherboard fiasco. Lately you can see the results of the problems discussed here if you see the ads in newspapers. AMD has almost completely disappeared from the low-end retail market (over the last several years, this market is kind of like AMD birth-right). In my estimate, there are about a million Durons sitting around and waiting for some motherboards to show up. AMD screwed up BIG time on the infrastructure side. If you had your eyes on the relative performance and pricing of Duron, you would see that there is no reason AMD couldn't have done a little better this quarter at the low-end. (and when I say little I mean somewhere in the neighborhood of 500-1000k units at about 70 bucks a pop) Thanks to VIA-s bungles and AMD's mishandling of the infrastructure strategy, what could have been a May launch has effectively become a late-July/early-August launch. On a slightly different topic: Having read Intel thread around Intel's earnings and having found nary a bit of analysis on this kind of issues, I am surprised at the investor sentiment that let's these kind of growth rules not apply to some companies. Can you tell me why that is? Why is that Frank Simmons and other Intel longs are not concerned about the same issues when it comes to Intel and why it makes sense to have an expanding PE in light of low growth? I would also like to here if you or anyone else dissected Intel's processor biz revenue growth for the quarter. Would love to hear some educated views on that subject. (especially, if there is someone who thinks IABG revenues were actually up for the quarter) And, I don't mean to ask these questions flippantly or rhetorically, I seriously would like to understand the investor sentiment on this issue. Chuck