To: Jeffrey S. Mitchell who wrote (257 ) 7/26/2000 10:31:03 AM From: Jeffrey S. Mitchell Respond to of 445 Found this rather humorous exchange on Saab's message board: Posted by ScottB on June 08, 2000 at 17:34:04: I have seen a few devices that claim to increase mpg's and decrease emissions. Has anyone tried these things or know of the science that's involved? The two that I am most interested in are at:fuelsaver.hypermart.net savetheworldair.com Scott ----- Posted by Ari on June 09, 2000 at 09:54:04: In Reply to: Let's discuss (argue) about these add-on fuel savers! posted by ScottB on June 08, 2000 at 17:34:04: Here's the science - the two most common elements in the universe are Hydrogen and Stupidity. And not necessarily in that order. Someone will always be selling snake oil in one form or another, because people will buy it. As to fuel improvers - Let's see - automakers stand to lose millions of dollars every year if they don't meet the CAFE (Corporate Average Fuel Economy) numbers. So they have to sell low profit econocars to offset the high profit SUVs and Luxobarges. Now, why would they spend millions of dollars on improving fuel economy, if they could just buy the rights to the Miracle Fuel Demolecularizer and Tooth Whitener from some guy working out of a trailer park in Memphis. Of course, the only answer is to invoke a Great Global Conspiracy in one form or another. Oil companies and car makers in secret deals to keep prices high. Promising technology quashed to keep prices high. Of course, how do you disprove a negative? If the conspiracy is that good, it will always cover its tracks. In the history of mankind, screwing up is as common as dirt. And the more folks included, the easier it is to screw up (you gave the UFO info to Mikey?). So the concept of a huge organization that can do all this wonderful stuff, that never makes a mistake, is just short of impossible. Of course, I can say this, because I am part of the GGC (Giant Global Conspiracy), and my job is to convince people it can't exist. How am I doing? Bottom line - If Ford could buy these gizmos for $49.95 + S&H, stick them on the latest Expedition or Explorer or Excess, and improve the gas mileage even a half MPG, they would save millions in CAFE charges. They would sell more of these behemoths (at $10K- $15K profit each!!!) because buyers would save a few bucks a tankful over the latest Chevy Subdivision. They could also fire half the PhDs they have doing research. You can 'line up' molecules with magnets (and what happens once they hit the intake manifold? Do they head north? Does the car get better mileage going north-south than east-west?), ionize, deionize, or swap all the Up quarks for Down. If gas companies or car companies could improve mileage even a few percent by passing the fuel through elephant prostates, they'd do it. Because they'd make money at it. If someone came up with a method that actually worked, would he/she/it be selling it out of a P.O. box somewhere? Heck no! They'd form a company, do an IPO, and walk away with a half-billion dollars. They sure as heck wouldn't be doing CODs. You want to save money on fuel? Run higher tire pressures, narrower tires, and keep your foot light on the pedal. Plan your routes to avoid headwinds. saabnet.com